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Slick Trick Penetration is TOO good. So I'm looking for a new broadhead.

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Old 11-29-2007 | 07:37 PM
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If it aint broke, fix it til it is!

But seriously,just 'causeit aint broke, don't mean it can't be made better.

The physics in my head tells me that with 75 lb ft you are wasting precious energy by putting 40 of it into the ground. 35 will pass through if placed right but you didn't need me to tell you that. Take that 40 you have in excess and invest it into as large a hole of destruction as you possibly can. Don't let the "bone" scare get at you because if you hit the wrong spot with a 1" cutting diameter, it still aint passing through even with 75 lb ft behind it. I think it's silly to put a 4ft wide plow on a dual axle diesel. Go 8ft and get it done in half the time.

I'm gonna be looking into Grim Reaper BHs for next season. They appear killer, take a peek.
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Old 11-29-2007 | 07:40 PM
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I completely see where you are coming from, and understand the reasoning behind it, but my question is, what happens when you don't make that perfect shot? When your off a little, and need that extra KE energy to bust through? Will the big 2" cuts do it? I might be way off here, I'm definitely no expert, but to me I would rather waste some KE, and have more margin for error. If you waste some on the perfect shot's, their still just as dead! Not saying mech's won't get it done (I'm shooting spitfires), just don't know why you would want to cut down your margin for error.

P.S. Guy's, if I'm way off here please explain it to me. I don't have a lot of experience with this, so always willing to learn!



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Old 11-29-2007 | 07:48 PM
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I put a rage through a Big bodied deer, hit the back shoulder at 35 yards. Right through. just minor damage to the tip. And what a hole. I have never put a hole in a creature that big with a shotgun. The arrow was about 20 yards past the deer. I Figure I am shooting right around 68.5 ftlbs of KE, with a 403 gr setup. You should be golden.
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Old 11-29-2007 | 08:45 PM
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GZG,
I completely see where you are coming from, and understand the reasoning behind it, but my question is, what happens when you don't make that perfect shot? When your off a little, and need that extra KE energy to bust through? Will the big 2" cuts do it? I might be way off here, I'm definitely no expert, but to me I would rather waste some KE, and have more margin for error. If you waste some on the perfect shot's, their still just as dead! Not saying mech's won't get it done (I'm shooting spitfires), just don't know why you would want to cut down your margin for error.

P.S. Guy's, if I'm way off here please explain it to me. I don't have a lot of experience with this, so always willing to learn!
Since I've never shot a mechanical, I'm certainly no expert. But my rationale is like this: Of the 9 deer I've killed with my bow,7 have been either double lung or single lungandheart. Of the two "bad hits", both were too far back, in the paunch. I managed to recover both, but only after extremely long tracking jobs (like 2 days).

In terms of "margin for error", when I miss, it's ususally because I shot too far back. I have never missed too far forward, in the bony part of the shoulder. I think this is the case with most bowhunters. There is a greater tendency to miss toward the guts than toward the shoulder bone.

So in the case of a liver, stomach, or gut shot, I'd rather have the biggest broadhead I can get. Penetration isn't a problem on paunch hits. On the extremely rare occasion that I miss forward, in the bony shoulder, a small fixed blade might be better, but it stillmight not penetrate. However, since I'm more likely to miss "too far back", I think bigger is better.

Don't you think the "too far back" hit is more common than the "too far forward" hit for most bowhunters?

The 250 lb 9 point that I gut shot in Illinois, that ran for 2 days before he died, might have gone down alot sooner with a 2"+ hole in his stomach.


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Old 11-29-2007 | 08:46 PM
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Annika

Here's another thought: Would you rather have a 2" cut from a 2 blade or a 2" cut from a 3 blade?

I'm seriously considering the Rocket Stricknines over the Rages because they are a 3 blade AND I can get them in 125 grain, which makes my arrows tune better (proper spine, more FOC).
The big difference is that with the Rage you get both a huge entrance and exit holebecause of the rear opening blades. Which is a benefit if you only get an entrance hole.

With the Rocket head you have the old style over the top blades and you don't getthe big entrance hole only an exit hole. This can cause a problem if you only have an entrance hole.
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Old 11-29-2007 | 09:07 PM
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Annika

Here's another thought: Would you rather have a 2" cut from a 2 blade or a 2" cut from a 3 blade?

I'm seriously considering the Rocket Stricknines over the Rages because they are a 3 blade AND I can get them in 125 grain, which makes my arrows tune better (proper spine, more FOC).
Not sure about the Stricknines, but the Rage Blades are A LOT tuffer than the Rocket Hammerheads blades. I usually lost a blade on most pass thrus with them, and one shot and they were toast. The Rage Blades are pretty tuff and I am waiting to take my third deer with one, after resharpening.
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Old 11-29-2007 | 09:22 PM
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Rocket Stricknines

What is the web address for there homepage
Trophy Ridge bought out Rocket. Go to www.trophyridge.com


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Old 11-29-2007 | 10:34 PM
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i have used both heads and both are devastating but idk if id switch if i was you....
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Old 11-30-2007 | 04:48 AM
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Don't you think the "too far back" hit is more common than the "too far forward" hit for most bowhunters?
I see your point, just for me personally, my "bad shot" was actually to far forward, but luckily it bustedthe leg bone, and went on through. Again, this was with a Spitfire, so mech will bust through, but this was just an average size doe. Not sure it would have worked on a mature buck.
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Old 11-30-2007 | 06:08 AM
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A Slick Trick Mag does more cutting than the Rage 2 blade. I guess you can use up some KE by opening a mechanical. I have killed several deer (+30) with mechanicals. You won't see me going back. I would like to see a Slick Trick Ultra Mag with a 1 1/4" cut

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