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RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
It was a Wal-Mart carbon arrow and no, the broadhead wasn't on it. The shaft broke right where you see it sticking out of him.
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RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
I don't know about that being a myth, Rob. There is a zone on elk we call the "taint" out here. 'Taint nothin there but a flesh wound - below the spine and above the top of the lungs in the rib cage. Recovery probability is very low. I haven't done a lot of archery deer hunting, but I would assume they are anatomically about the same - although the zone is obviously bigger on elk.
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RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer No Shultzy, I'm saying that "No mans land", "void", "hollow spot" doesn't exist. Period. That arrow in this buck I believe and rdy2hunt can correct me is above the spine....and the shot many THINK is below the spine just like now. The spine is much lower in a deer than many think, some spots on a mature animal it's 6" below the hair line/back line of a deer. Many think they are below the spine when the are NOT. It's possible to break bones in the spine without breaking the spine or spinal cord, the deer will be fine as in this case. (again, rdy2hunt, correct me if I'm wrong). |
RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
The arrow was most definitely ABOVE the spine as Rob stated. As far as the "hollow spot" "no man's land" stuff goes, it's a myth. I am not trying to start that great debate all over, but I can assure you after field dressing/butchering well over 100 deer and having two close friends who are wildlife biologists, if you place an arrow/bullet in the chest cavity of a deer, behind the shoulder, it is a dead deer.........period. It is possible to hit above the spine and cause nothing more than a flesh wound barring infection. If it is below the spine and good left/right the lungs are taken out resulting in a quick, clean kill.
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RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
Did you notice how far the vanes are from the nock and it looks like five inch vanes. Holly crapp who would fletch that far forward on a arrow and who uses five inch vanes any more other than trad. people. I can't tell if it's alunimun are a carbon arrow. Must be cardon because aluminum you think would of been broke of on the at the vanes with that much arrow sticking out.
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RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
I never heard of no-mans-land until this year (I'm new at this). A friend of mine shot a buck out of his box stand opening day of rifle season and he just wandered off. A couple of days later he shot the same buck and dropped him. You could see the wound went all the way thru without hitting anything important. Pretty big exit wound, but no critical damage. Maybe given time the buck would have died of infection, but he made it thru a few days no problem.
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RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
ORIGINAL: rdy2hnt The arrow was most definitely ABOVE the spine as Rob stated. As far as the "hollow spot" "no man's land" stuff goes, it's a myth. I am not trying to start that great debate all over, but I can assure you after field dressing/butchering well over 100 deer and having two close friends who are wildlife biologists, if you place an arrow/bullet in the chest cavity of a deer, behind the shoulder, it is a dead deer.........period. It is possible to hit above the spine and cause nothing more than a flesh wound barring infection. If it is below the spine and good left/right the lungs are taken out resulting in a quick, clean kill. |
RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
Wonder if that was a downhill shotor might of beena tree stand shot.?
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RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
ORIGINAL: BigTiny I never heard of no-mans-land until this year (I'm new at this). A friend of mine shot a buck out of his box stand opening day of rifle season and he just wandered off. A couple of days later he shot the same buck and dropped him. You could see the wound went all the way thru without hitting anything important. Pretty big exit wound, but no critical damage. Maybe given time the buck would have died of infection, but he made it thru a few days no problem. |
RE: Arrow found in gun kill.
Not much angle on the arrow. Must of been on the ground are not very high in a tree. It could of been a longer shot too. WAl-Mart arrow thats way it looks like it dose. A production made arrow.
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