"Find the does during the rut and you will find the bucks to."

bloodcreek - exactly

btw - I like your teams avatar. We're still waiting on ours.

thanks guys. trad- i will check my email tonight at home since my email here wont open for some odd reason. i will take ur advice. i will probably not use it on the opener, see what the grounds feel like, and then try a scent, maybe a dominant buck, middle of the week. i appreciate ur help guys

o and about tinks,thats just for rut i beleive right? i think 69 is only doe in heat urine, i could be wrong. lol my friend told me one year he used it in WV, and had a buck come up to it and basically eat it, or try it. now this guy is known for telling tails, not really lieing, just over exagerating, so im not sure, but he did shoot a buck that day so maybe it did happen. lol either way its funny.

geterdun - ever hunt the eastern shore? Good friends of mine ran a guide service "Shore-bet-Outfitters", Steve and Scott Rupert.

I hunted one of their lease farms that backed up to the Chester River backwaters. Killed a nice buck on that farm.