o and about tinks,thats just for rut i beleive right? i think 69 is only doe in heat urine, i could be wrong. lol my friend told me one year he used it in WV, and had a buck come up to it and basically eat it, or try it. now this guy is known for telling tails, not really lieing, just over exagerating, so im not sure, but he did shoot a buck that day so maybe it did happen. lol either way its funny.