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Old 01-07-2003, 04:04 AM
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i was wondering if broadheads do punture the shoulders of deer and still pass through for a clean kill? or is bow hunting made for shots in the lungs and heart?
also after shooting a deer in the lungs. how long do you have to wait till ou can go claim your prize?
is it depending on th shot and what the deer does afterward tell you how long to wait as well?

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Old 01-07-2003, 05:33 AM
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Quilly in regards to the shoulders, yes with the right setup and the proper distance and the right broadhead they can, but........and this is a BIG BUT! you need to stick with the boiler room shots, many times the shoulder blade will deflect a braodhead, I know, I nicked the tip of the shoulder blade on the deer I shot this year, I got real lucky and it deflected up into her spine and shattered it, she dropped like a ton of lead bricks. The reason I hit her there was she jumped the string causing my shot to go high and forward just enough to catch the very end of her shoulder blade.

I will leave it to others to answer the distance gone and how long to wait on lung/heart shots, here is what I have heard from the better hunters here, with a double lung shot, the deer could go anywhere from 20 yards to over 100 yards, you should always give a double lunger at least 1/2 hour before tracking. Other hits I will let others describe, but some hits you should wait 3-4 hours or more.

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Old 01-07-2003, 07:12 AM
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Shoulder shots are not recommended Quilly although today's bows do have enough power to pass through. Too many variables with this shot. As Taz said, stick to the boiler room. A pass through in this area usually results in a good blood trail as well as a short travel distance. If my shot is good, I usually see the deer go down. I then wait 15 min or so. If the deer runs out of sight, I'll wait 30 more min. If your shot is from the liver back I like to wait an hour or more. Gut shot deer should be left alone as long as possible. An hours time will have a gut shot deer bedded and still alert. If you jump the deer, 9 out 10 times it will be lost. Your arrow will tell you how long to wait.
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Old 01-07-2003, 07:48 AM
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Quilly, I would definetely avoid any shoulder shot on a deer with a bow. Usually the only reason for taking this shot is on a quartering to you shot. If you do make it through the shoulder, you will still have to hit both lungs, or lung and heart, in order to make a clean kill. If you only get one lung, you could be in a lot of trouble, trust me. A slightly quartering to you shot may be OK, but not through the shoulder. Always wait for the quartering away (not over 45 degree angle) or broadside shot.

As far as waiting, if you see the deer go down, I would wait about 15 minutes. If you don't see the deer go down, but are very sure of a good hit, give it an hour to be on the safe side. And be quiet in the stand. Some guys like to lower their bows down to stop themselves from the tempation of shooting another deer (legally), but I like to keep my bow in hand with an arrow for the off chance that the deer comes back (never happened to me, but has happened to others). You never want to shoot at another deer without recovereng the first deer.

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Old 01-07-2003, 11:12 AM
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If you know that you hit the deer in the heart/lungs and you see or
hear it go down you dont have to wait more than a couple minutes.
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Old 01-07-2003, 05:19 PM
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what do you mean by your arrow will tell you everything? i do see on hunting shows that they look at there arrows and are pleased what they see.
what do you look for in your arrow?

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Old 01-08-2003, 04:01 AM
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Old 01-08-2003, 04:58 AM
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Quilly, these guys on these outdoor shows are NOT necessarily EXPERTS. I've seen to many BAD shots taken by these guys. To often their shots produce very poor penetration at very poor angles. You have to remember that they have the advantage of editing. They also have the advantage of(if it dosn't work we'll never know). If they get lucky they always edit and throw in "It's a good hit. He won't go far". And then presto... the next frame there's a dead deer. I watched one of my old videos yesterday with exactly that. The guy walks up on a sunny day when he shot in clouds and says, there he is. When he grabs the deer to pull his head up the critter is stiff and his eyes sunken. I think it was the next day. They also quite often have these hunts in enclosures where eventually they can find the deer. At that point it's shooting and not hunting.

Stick with the basics. Always strive for the classic broadside shot with a double lung pass through. Even then there are always obstacles waiting to jump up and bite you. The bow Gods are always there to make you pay for indiscretions. Chances are if you take a frontal shot you probably will get bit. You can't rewind or delete like they do in the movies. You'll search and hunt and kick yourself for years for taking such a stupid shot. My thoughts are that just about any deer that offers me a frontal shot will either keep coming and pass giving me a quartering away or turn offering me a broadside. If I can get drawn all I have to do is wait him out.

We learn from our mistakes and the mistakes of others. The movies are NOT real life at lifes speed. 2 minutes on a movie can be hours with dogs and every camera man and outfitter looking. BAD shots are just that... BAD.
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Old 01-08-2003, 05:02 AM
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Bright, frothy blood is usually a good lung hit. Dark blood, liver or artery. Slimey, smelly arrow, guts.

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