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RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
Without reading all of the replies, its not a must. But in my opinion being winded by mature does and mature bucks is the biggest reason a hunter is "found out". Sometimes winds shift and thermal air currents change and can't be helped. Though I've had a mature buck catch me because of movement, I've more times than not been caught because of being winded.
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ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat Hey atlas, nyahh nyahh nya nyahh nyahh[:-] That is a good summation of your input to most threads. Ohh and you do? I am the one who is stupid? You are the one who goes on defensive every time someone makes a statement you don't agree with. Now if you don't have an educated reply to this thread why did you respond to begin with? |
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 If you listen during huntimg shows they still worry about wind, correct direction correct. I think the best word to describe it would be MARKETING! |
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keep your money! take a shower if you must (play the wind dude-play the wind.)
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How did I miss this thread?
 I'm sure you're all aware of the lab testing Scent-Lok had done this year. It was intended to dispell the question of reactivation.If it made sense to you and it changed your mind about SL , then great. If it didn't , then great again. I won't go into the testing. It is readily available to you. I know that some will argue that SL paid for the testing. They did. If they didn't do it then who would? The government? No. The non believers? No again. I had a member on another forum tell me he was sending a sample of SL to a lab he was affiliated with. He would have it tested and then report back to me and the forum it could not be reactivated. That was2 months ago and he will still not answer my PM's. I want to know what the findings were. He won't fess up. Hhhmmm!!!! You non believers can do the same if you would like. I would welcome your findings. As long as you are honest. Do I think you NEED Scent-Lok? No , you don't. Do I think it works? I do. Do I hunt the wind? Yes, I'd be a fool not to. Do I worry about a wind shift or a sudden swirl? No, I don't. Does Scent-Lok adsorb 100% of human scent? I don't think so. Does it adsorb enough to fool a deer's nose? I sure think it does. DO I work for Scent-Lok? Absolutely not. I work for myself. Do you care what I think? Probably not , but I thought I'd share.  [/align] |
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Do you care what I think? Probably not , but I thought I'd share. |
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ORIGINAL: Arthur P Do you care what I think? Probably not , but I thought I'd share. |
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ORIGINAL: archer58 I'm sure you're all aware of the lab testing Scent-Lok had done this year.  I know that some will argue that SL paid for the testing. I had a member on another forum tell me he was sending a sample of SL to a lab he was affiliated with. He would have it tested and then report back to me and the forum it could not be reactivated. That was2 months ago and he will still not answer my PM's. I want to know what the findings were. He won't fess up. Hhhmmm!!!!  I posted MANY items in the thread started by SL with questions about the "testing" that was done........I know you remember because you were posting as well and I said it would be better to let the author answer instead of us debate..............I got NO replies from the SL author. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm I posted study after study discussing ALL the components that have been discovered in human odors and not JUST the highly volatile ones that were conveniently part of the SL infomercial.............the silence was deafening. You non believers can do the same if you would like. Let me give you some help on this one......if you have to "believe" in something that is being sold to you.......you're boned. There is nothing to "believe" in or not...........science doesn't work that way. It is black and white, right or wrong, fact or fiction........that is why analytical minds are drawn to it. |
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ORIGINAL: Arthur P Germ, ufortunately the photo is posted without any source, so I can't say who made the photo and neither can you. This is just one of several different but similar photos I have seen on the internet but this is the only one I can find still up. I haven't seen a rebuttal, either in photograph or print, from any of the manufacturers to dispute it. If you have a link to such, please post it. This photo IS on T.R. Michels' web page, but I would expect him to make use of this kind of photo to support his point of view. Also, he discusses the 'bribery attempt' on the same page. I really don't want to jump into the war between Michels and Scent Lok. It's raging along quite nicely without me anyway. ;) But since you brought it up, here's the link to his page. http://www.trmichels.com/ActivatedCarbonScience.htm However, his beef lies in his theory that it does not absorb the amount of odor that the manufacturer would have you believe. Nor does it last for as long they would have us believe because not all of the odors it absorbs can be broken down and de-sorbed under the heat limits of a household dryer. Therefore, since some of the odor causing elements remain in the carbon, you don't start with a "clean slate" each time the suit is re-activated and, eventually, with all the carbon filled with these compounds which cannot be relieved, the carbon no longer absorbs anything. So, I don't think there's any question that the carbon helps absorbs odor. The question is how much odor is absorbed (refer to the fabric picture) and whether, if the suit eventually fills with compounds that cannot be relieved at temps. possible in a household dryer, the manufacturer is misleading us and/or whether that fact justifies the increased expense. |
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This is always one of the funniest things I see........"believers" Let me give you some help on this one......if you have to "believe" in something that is being sold to you.......you're boned. There is nothing to "believe" in or not...........science doesn't work that way. It is black and white, right or wrong, fact or fiction........that is why analytical minds are drawn to it.
I wear this stuff on the off-chance it works even a fraction of the amount they advertise. I paid less for it than most did their regular camo....so the price thing is debunked. It's a great fitting, quality garment whether it has scent-lok capabilities or not. I kinda look at it like a.....a butt out tool. You can get by without one....but it's cool to have around in case it helps out some. |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman You are the one who goes on defensive every time someone makes a statement you don't agree with. Now if you don't have an educated reply to this thread why did you respond to begin with? (for those keeping score I like the stuff:D) |
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Yep, in case you have a flat on your truck. You wear your scent lok so you dont get your good hunting cloths all messed up.
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ORIGINAL: Germ The above picture is taken by a person with a site dedicated to smearing scentLok. The above person also tried to take a bribe from scentlok. Arthur I have about asmuch faith in the picture as i do in the Govener here in MI;) The bribe part is on his website, so I did not make it up, LOL. Not saying to use;)it or not, nor believe in it. I just can not stand people with agenda's. I have use Scent-Lok in the past, but I find some of the silver base clothing easier to use. Fact in 2007 I will not have a suit with ScentLok. Because I feel other products are better, if ScentLok makes a product better than what I am using, then I will buy it. Here is the quote from the guys site. Sorry I won't use the persons name;) I was informed on May 2, 2007, that in their most recent Patent re-exam, Scent Lok accuses me of trying to get them to bribe me to not post, talk about or write about my proof that their product cannot work as they claim. The truth of the matter is that I did try to get them to bribe me, in either an e-mail or a signed letter, so that I would have proof of their willingness to bribe me, so I could expose their tactics to the public. I never intended to accept a bribe from them. I came up with the idea of trying to get them to bribe me after Mike Andrews (of Scent Lok) made the following statement to me: "We look forward to having you as one of our biggest supporters in the future." I took that as an offer to compensate me if I would no longer comment on my beliefs about how their product could not work as they claim. Here is what I e-mailed Scent Lok on May 2, 2007 I have scent lok and scent blocker clothing. Two years ago my scent lok bibs ripped open. The picture that you are refering to is exactly what my bibs looked like inside. To the "T". Tom |
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Tom I would believe you 100%.
My issue is him, not the picture. |
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I only wear mine if its windy. Other than that wash your clothers in baking soda and put them in a big scent proof container with a bunch of fresh earth wafers. To be honest I have not noticed the difference. My suit is pretty warm so I try to only wear it when its cold and windy. It does work or my scent eliminating ways of taking care of my clothes work well cause ive shot deer with the wind blowing directly at me while they walked in! I can not remember the last time I got busted to tell you the truth but I am so anal about my hunting clothes people laugh at me! I also never go to stand without a scent away shower. NEVER. And I also hang fresh earth scent wafers in my vehicle 2 weeks before hunting season and they are in there all season.:)
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ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d is there any conceivable way that Scent-lok or other Carbon Clothing can be made useful or even regenerate-able?? |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d is there any conceivable way that Scent-lok or other Carbon Clothing can be made useful |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: archer58 I'm sure you're all aware of the lab testing Scent-Lok had done this year. yes, I t was done in a lab. I know that some will argue that SL paid for the testing. This type of testing is whathunter's asked for. Some Scientific data. And YOU did also.AndYOU stated that if the testing was paid for by SL , it would not be valid. I had a member on another forum tell me he was sending a sample of SL to a lab he was affiliated with. He would have it tested and then report back to me and the forum it could not be reactivated. That was2 months ago and he will still not answer my PM's. I want to know what the findings were. He won't fess up. Hhhmmm!!!! I don't drink coctails. And if you think what T.R. Michaels posted is any proof SL doesn't work ,you need to consider his agenda. He's selling a scent control system.I was referring to the tests done. You don't think they are valid. I posted MANY items in the thread started by SL with questions about the "testing" that was done........I know you remember because you were posting as well and I said it would be better to let the author answer instead of us debate..............I got NO replies from the SL author. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm I posted study after study discussing ALL the components that have been discovered in human odors and not JUST the highly volatile ones that were conveniently part of the SL infomercial.............the silence was deafening. Are you a scientist? I'm not. None of these "studies" specifically addressed Scent-Lok. Send it to a lab yourself. And I , like YOU , choose not to BELIEVE the tests you claim to be valid. You non believers can do the same if you would like. Let me give you some help on this one......if you have to "believe" in something that is being sold to you.......you're boned. There is nothing to "believe" in or not...........science doesn't work that way. It is black and white, right or wrong, fact or fiction........that is why analytical minds are drawn to it.
You don't believe in SL , and that's cool. Do you believe in the Scent-killer you spray on your clothes, or the baking soda , or the scent killer laundry detergent you use? How do you know it works. ..Faith in the manufacturer's claims AND YOU chose to believe it. DON'T use Scent-Lok. I won't let you. |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d is there any conceivable way that Scent-lok or other Carbon Clothing can be made useful or even regenerate-able?? |
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ORIGINAL: Germ With it's current design??...........no. Do you have a design that will work? |
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Sorry I was curious;)
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There is nothing to "believe" in or not...........science doesn't work that way. It is black and white, right or wrong, fact or fiction........that is why analytical minds are drawn to it. |
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ORIGINAL: archer58 Do you believe in "ANYTHING" atlas? You don't believe in SL , and that's cool. Do you believe in the Scent-killer you spray on your clothes, or the baking soda , or the scent killer laundry detergent you use? How do you know it works. ..Faith in the manufacturer's claims AND YOU chose to believe it. |
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ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat Science, Smience..............I will stick with what I "believe in". If I believe it works "for me", then "I" will use it. Ignorance is bliss. |
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oops, sorry. I just wanted to make sure everyone saw my post right before the one atlas made. I believe a lot of others probably feel this way also.
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ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d is there any conceivable way that Scent-lok or other Carbon Clothing can be made useful AND Germ asks: ORIGINAL: atlasman [blockquote]quote: ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d is there any conceivable way that Scent-lok or other Carbon Clothing can be made useful[/blockquote] With it's current design??...........no. [blockquote]quote: or even regenerate-able??[/blockquote] Without question.......no Do you have a design that will work? |
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Ignorance is bliss |
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ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat Ignorance is bliss |
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There is nothing to "believe" about Fresh Earth spray........open the bottle and smell it for yourself........it smells like dirt The scent absorption properties (and multiple other uses) of sodium bicarb have been proven for decades by science. LT |
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ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d is there any conceivable way that Scent-lok or other Carbon Clothing can be made useful AND Germ asks: ORIGINAL: atlasman [blockquote]quote: ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d is there any conceivable way that Scent-lok or other Carbon Clothing can be made useful[/blockquote] With it's current design??...........no. [blockquote]quote: or even regenerate-able??[/blockquote] Without question.......no Do you have a design that will work? Man GR8............chill, I can only type so fast. ;) Absolutely. |
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I have a Scent Lok suit and love it, dont think it is a must, but any extra confidence i can get in the woods could make a big difference.
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ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat Then how about proving the deer can not smell the chemical makeup of said "dirt smell" in a bottle? Did the deer tell you they can not smell other odors that baking soda can not pull out? LT |
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[blockquote]quote: You don't believe in SL , and that's cool.[/blockquote] I have told you 100 times........there is nothing to "believe" about science and the laws of chemistry. They just are. You can say or "believe" whatever you want but that won't ever change the truth. |
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RIP OFF!!!!!
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ORIGINAL: Do you have a design that will work? [/quote] Man GR8............chill, I can only type so fast. ;) Absolutely. |
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ORIGINAL: mobowhuntr I'll argue that point a little bit.....This is not scent lok, but you need look no farther than the evolution/creation debate to refute that point. It most certainly is about what you believe, because as I've mentioned before, science can prove and/or disprove anything it wants. Open your mouth in ANY advanced scientific forum (seminar, meeting, study, etc) and you better darn well be able to PROVE what you are saying or you are just wasting time..........and will be told as much. Gravity is a scientific law...........you can say and believe whatever you want about it but it won't change. My guess is you already know this because you wouldn't wear a safety harness if you thought gravity was negotiable;) |
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ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d ORIGINAL: Do you have a design that will work? Man GR8............chill, I can only type so fast. ;) Absolutely. [/quote] What do you want me to say? |
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[blockquote]quote: ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat Then how about proving the deer can not smell the chemical makeup of said "dirt smell" in a bottle?[/blockquote] I'm sure they can smell it.........that's the whole point. Duh. [blockquote]quote: Did the deer tell you they can not smell other odors that baking soda can not pull out? LT [/blockquote] Did I say anything about deer when I addressed sodium bicarb?? I say bologna. |
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Does your suit use carbon like ScentLoks?
If so have you contacted them with your idea? |
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I want to know what new ideas you have..if current suits are ineffective..how would you do things differently and why would yours work where others have failed?
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