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RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
now that's funny:D
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RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
LT,
I'll take one of those suits. If you can prove the science behind it. [/align] |
RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
Nope not a must, but neither is a grunt call and I have several of those!
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I will have the market cornered. Better get your orders in fast before the copy"cats" start coming out of the woodwork. The only drawback to my new scent control suits is they do not hold up well without a water proof barrier. They start clumping up when wet. This can be cured by just wearing a dependable rain suit in your choice of camo as an outer layer. Works like a charm.
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Clueless and childish.
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Just imagine, you will be doin the "stray cat strut" in your stand and never get winded again. You could say these suits are the "Cat's Meow". And by the way, did I mention you will never be bothered again when old "#2" hits you on stand. Just let the deuce fall where it may. When done, just toss the entire suit and put on a new one. Now that is a scientific breakthru if I ever saw one.
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32 replies from atlaslater with nothing elseprofitableto add and"I" am called clueless and childish. Just playin your game atlas. No harm intended here.:D
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ORIGINAL: atlasman Clueless and childish. Nice combo
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Counting my replies and sitting at home drawing me pictures??
You've got problems. |
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You are the one sitting up late to look at the pictures not me.
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Good one.
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RE: Do you think Scent Lok is a must?
The question is whether Scent-Lok works. Advertising and marketing aside , thousands and thousands of Scent-Lok products are sold every year. Hunter that have used it and used it properly have found a benefit to it. If it didn't work, it would not sell. This is a pretty basic business premise. If you produce a product and it doesn't work for the consumer ,you are out of business. They stop buying it.No one can dupe a couple million hunters for this long.
We all make buying decissions based on advertising, what our buddies say, what we read, our own presonal expierence and money.Just to name a few. Trust me when I tell you. If it didn't work for me, I sure wouldn't use it , or have any part of it. I'd be wasting my time and HARD earned money. And I don't like to waste money. It's too hard to come by. It's no magic elixar, it's an aid. A very good one. |
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ORIGINAL: archer58 The question is whether Scent-Lok works. Advertising and marketing aside , thousands and thousands of Scent-Lok products are sold every year. Hunter that have used it and used it properly have found a benefit to it. If it didn't work, it would not sell. This is a pretty basic business premise. If you produce a product and it doesn't work for the consumer ,you are out of business. They stop buying it.No one can dupe a couple million hunters for this long. We all make buying decissions based on advertising, what our buddies say, what we read, our own presonal expierence and money.Just to name a few. Trust me when I tell you. If it didn't work for me, I sure wouldn't use it , or have any part of it. I'd be wasting my time and HARD earned money. And I don't like to waste money. It's too hard to come by. It's no magic elixar, it's an aid. A very good one. this seems true, but pet rocks used to sell like hotcakes.:eek:[8D] I think scentlok is great for those who want to use it. IDK if it can be regenerated in a dryer or not, im no scientist. But i'm willing to bet that over half the people who buy the stuff, buy it because of the name or image. i know that everyone i personally know that wears it, wears it for the name or self image it gives em. they want to use what the pros use, which ties back to advertising. All that aside, ive looked into it VERY seriously, and concluded that no one who has bought it has been ripped off, because as GMMAT said, it is good quality camo if nothing else. I just couldn't bring myself to paying twice the price for a camo suit, because it has a carbon liner in it, which is controversial at best on whether it works or not. |
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ORIGINAL: archer58 The question is whether Scent-Lok works. The answer is no. |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: archer58 The question is whether Scent-Lok works. The answer is no. |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: archer58 The question is whether Scent-Lok works. The answer is no. |
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ORIGINAL: archer58 You have no personal expierence in the matter. That's like me saying there arealot of big bucks in N.Y. I've never hunted there , I've only read about it. I have plenty of experience with carbon........from the basics right up to nearly a decade of post graduate study. All in all I would put it at about 16+ years of working with it on many levels ranging frombasic applications right up to complex lab procedures involved in published peer reviewed studies. But you're right...........you probably know more because you put on a suit and saw a deer downwind once :eek: |
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Well this is where I bow out. It was a pretty interesting discussion, but now it's turned into who's smarter and who can make who look more dumb. I can out wit you, no you can't........enjoy.
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ORIGINAL: archer58 If it didn't work, it would not sell. This is a pretty basic business premise. If you produce a product and it doesn't work for the consumer ,you are out of business. They stop buying it.No one can dupe a couple million hunters for this long. Lets face it folks this stuff does not work. It doesn't have enough carbon in it to stop one fart. Even if it did, it would absorb to much smell by the time it hits the store. You loose well over half the carbon on the first wash, look at the bottom of your washing machine. Scent/air follows the path of least resistance always! There is less resistance at the cuffs and neck linethan through the cloth so your scent is escaping. If it makes you feel more confient about getting in the stand early in the morning with coffee on your breath and sugar from the mornings donuts on your fingers then have at it but don't give credit to the suit. The deer came in and stayed around hoping for coffee and donuts dammit! Tom |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman I have plenty of experience with carbon........from the basics right up to nearly a decade of post graduate study. All in all I would put it at about 16+ years of working with it on many levels ranging frombasic applications right up to complex lab procedures involved in published peer reviewed studies. But you're right...........you probably know more because you put on a suit and saw a deer downwind once :eek: It happened TWICE. ![]() [/align] [/align] [/align] |
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What seems to be slipping by many of you..Is that Atlas, who arguably is one of the most knowledgable and outwardly vocal people on this board on the subject is not saying that carbon technology is ineffective. He's saying current carbon technology is ineffective. With his vast knowledge and years of study he has a better idea. So, it's not so much that he is a basher, it's that he has a designed abetter mousetrap (at least in theory).
If you are not doing it the Atlas way...you must be a moron and your product sucks..and I will flame your postsat every chance I'm given. Kinda has the ring ofsour ![]() Wow what a great Scent-lok endorsement, a backdoor compliment by the main detractor himself! |
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I ditched the Scent-Loc for the following reason. I questioned how well thses things were absorbing oder. If they don'twork as advertised, you're wearing the same smelly suit over and over. Kind of defeats the the whole scent control idea.I questioned it because after wearing the suit for a few days, the number of deer I'd see diminished. Not claming scientic fact here, just an observation. Wash the suit, and I was back up close and personnal. Without scent-loc last year, I watched 6 deer play fromunder my stand to 20 yards out, for over a half hour.20 feet up, they never knew I was there. No wind that day.
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ORIGINAL: archer58 So you are the local expert. Now that I told you about my background on the subject I will ask you to do the same. What educational background and experience level do you have with carbon? |
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I read an article a couple of years ago abouthowit doesn't work. Something about once it hits oxygen it starts degenerating the effects of the carbon or something.
Marketing is a very powerful tool. |
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ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d So, it's not so much that he is a basher, it's that he has a designed abetter mousetrap (at least in theory). If you are not doing it the Atlas way...you must be a moron and your product sucks..and I will flame your postsat every chance I'm given. Kinda has the ring ofsour ![]() That is completely false GR8.........why would you post something so stupid? I have no product to sell and no idea for any product for someone else to sell. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with that. I know you guys are so desperate for an angle to personally discredit someone that you will try anything........even making stuff up, even this is foolish by those standards. ![]() |
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No.
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and I will flame your postsat every chance I'm given. |
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My money's on the guy from NC State having more years experience, more degrees, etc...
Does that mean he wins?[&:] |
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def. not
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scent lok is not a must but scent blocker is a dif story that alta start a war lol
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This topic was fun to read for about the first 13 pages. First, I just wanted to say, Lungbuster ya can't be so sensitive. Other people on this sight will make ya cry on purpose, ask Atlasman. They've got this poor guy all worked up and prolly pulling his hair out. This sight isn't about being 100% proper. We kinda like rippin on each other here. Thats part of what makes this sight great. All I can say is if you're really a moderator on another site like you stated, well, I'm glad I'm not a member of that site because it's probably more like sitting in study hall in high school.
Does Scent Lok really work? I don't know and I don't give a damn. What I do know is it works for me. Is scent Lok really as expensive as some earlier posts made it to be? No, I bought everything I need from head to toe and only spent around $300. I also saw other coats without Scent Lok that costs more that my entire set up. So why not try it? Doesn't make deer run from me thats for sure. |
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ORIGINAL: snake123 ask Atlasman. They've got this poor guy all worked up and prolly pulling his hair out. They have me worked up??? That's the first time I have ever heard that one here. |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman Now that I told you about my background on the subject I will ask you to do the same. What educational background and experience level do you have with carbon? Repeat for archer............must have got lost in the shuffle ;) |
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I agree with the poster above who said this post was interesting for about thirteen pages then wow, I am not sure what happened. It appears there are some sensitive folks out there.
I wanted to share a theory I read a while back about scent-control / scent-lok that seems kind of plausible and was interesting to me. Deer obviously have a wicked sense of smell which is real hard, if not impossible to beat entirely. The theory is that deer in your area which are not upwind, Know you are there. The reduction in odor that we work hard for with various clothes, sprays, etc... reduces our odor enough to fool the deer into thinking we are FARTHER away than we really are. They wind/smell us but believe we are 800, 1000 yards or a quarter mile away or whatever, but in reality we are much closer than they expect. That to me explains to some degree why some times we get busted from far off, close up, or not at all. Maybe scent-lok doesnt work as well as some say, but then again maybe there is an advantage to some degree with this "distance" theory......... |
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ORIGINAL: atlasman Now that I told you about my background on the subject I will ask you to do the same. What educational background and experience level do you have with carbon? Repeat for archer............Once again the silence is deafening ;) For someone who questions other people's experience and knowledge of this topic as a validation of credibility.........you sure clammed up in a hurry when I asked you about yours ;) |
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Atlas, I have a serious question to ask. I broke down and got an APX Scentlok suit last year,I bought it at a store that had just opened, and it had a lot of the stain smell fromthe wood work done inside. My Scentlok had the smell much worse than a couple of shirts that I also bought. I couldn't wear the head mask( it was so strong) for a while. To me, it seemed to have absorbed an inordinate amount of scent, and it took a while for it to dissipate. To me, that would indicate that it was 'working' , a least initially. It seems as if the real issue is for how long and how , if at all, can it be 'reactivated'. Would that be a correct assessment of your findings? I won't say how much I spent on it--but I did get it at a discount!;)
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ORIGINAL: manuman Atlas, I have a serious question to ask. I broke down and got an APX Scentlok suit last year,I bought it at a store that had just opened, and it had a lot of the stain smell fromthe wood work done inside. My Scentlok had the smell much worse than a couple of shirts that I also bought. I couldn't wear the head mask( it was so strong) for a while. To me, it seemed to have absorbed an inordinate amount of scent, and it took a while for it to dissipate. To me, that would indicate that it was 'working' , a least initially. If YOU could smell that terrible stink coming from the suit imagine what it smelled like to a deer. |
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That's encouraging!!!At least I look good in it!!!
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ORIGINAL: atlasman ORIGINAL: atlasman Now that I told you about my background on the subject I will ask you to do the same. What educational background and experience level do you have with carbon? Repeat for archer............Once again the silence is deafening ;) For someone who questions other people's experience and knowledge of this topic as a validation of credibility.........you sure clammed up in a hurry when I asked you about yours ;) I don't understand archer..........you questioned my background and experience as a way to challenge my credibilty so I responded to ease your concerns. Why are you unwilling to do the same?? Cue the crickets. |
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Another hit and run artist?
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