You are right Bruce. The door does swing both way. That's why as "the guest" a true friend would probably voluntarily decline to shoot the specific animal he knew his buddy was after, although he did not have to. Thus, giving the chance for both firends to be gracious towards one another.

I think alot of it depends. I hunt where we don't have to worry about things like this, just the game laws. I mean if someone owns like 50 Acres of land and knows of one big buck out there that he's been hunting, it's a lot different than if someone owns 400 acres and is asking you not to shoot any of the big bucks that are walking around. I personally would not ask someone to hunt on my land and expect them not to shoot something that I would. My uncles who spend a lot of time managing their deer don't ask that of me (but I'm also responsible enough not to be shooting any small forkhorns either). I wouldn't necessarily decline the invitation, but it's not the way I think it should be done.

As far as asking someone out for a doe hunt, if everyone's hunting does then it very reasonable to expect someone not to shoot a buck, but to ask someone to come out and shoot does while everyone else is buck hunting isn't. Most of our "doe hunts" are in doe only season though, so we don't have much problems with that. I don't know how the rest of your states are.

And we can take that a step further and say a true friend would voluntarily pass on a buck because he was invited to kill does and understands and respects what his friend is trying to accomplish. Maybe the following year, after helping with the does, his friend will invite him to come and kill any deer now that the ratio is better .

Down here (NC) we can kill does the entire season, and new this year, we can pay $5 and get 2 more doe tags, I think you can buy all of these you can afford...Frankly, unless a buck is older and has a very small rack or his antlers are as wide as his ears, I let him walk....

Anybody want to come down and help kill some of these does????

On a SPECIFIC Buck, yes, perhaps. Still discretionary. But not any buck as in the other thread. Just like in Bigjim12's scenario where there was one SPECIFICelk we were talking about.

I probably wouldnt do it because i know i have a better chance at taking a trophy on some of my properties. If it was an out of state hunt tha twouldnt burn my tag here, then i probably would have to go

Absolutely without a doubt. I did this last year. I was invited to a lease for gun season to get does only and I did even though there were bucks I saw I wanted to shoot. Because they trusted me they invited me backduring late seasonto harvest a cull buck with a bowthey wanted out of the gene pool. I had 5 mature buck walk by my stand in a bachelor group and one was a double main beam 8 pt. I was in this contest and hadn't got a buck and still didn't shoot since none of them were cull bucks. I told them about it and now they trust me and I'm invited back this year. To me its about trust and people first. This may lead to getting some P&Y's later but even if it doesn't I never want to get the point where I can't enjoy a hunt like this, especially with a bow. It's all about time with God, connection with his creation, and building relationships and memories with fellow hunters.

I wasn't sure GR8, thanks for clearing that up.

I was going to interject that last point earlier, but I forgot. I am indeed truely blessed to be able to hunt the areas I do and the amount of time I am able. Because of that I do have higher standards.

I was just out baiting bears and was thinking about it. I have those higher standards because I am able to offer someone a great hunt, with no limitations. I guess I just expect the same in return. I can see if someone doesn't have the opportuinitiesI do, they should jumpon any opportunity they have to spend more time in the outdoors.

Come to think of it, maybe I am a little spoiled! [8D][&:]

I guess that's the point I have been trying to make.

It would mean nothing to me to go cull a buck for someone. Basically so they don't have to tag it themselves so they can get the big one.I'd pass.