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GMMAT 06-22-2007 09:04 AM

Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Outfitter in OH......happens to have a side business that I contract with. JUST called and invited me on a hunt.....at "cost". We talk for a while....and he realizes I know enough not to sound dumb. I offer to do "management" hunt....and he says "no cost".....if I'll take a doe, too.

So....would this be something you would do? it goes back to my "restrictions" thread. I'll be hunting under his "restrictions".....but it'll only cost me an OH license.

I'm guessing I could possibly be looking at a 140"+ "management" deer if it pans out. LOTS of things would have to align.....but I think I'll do it if I get the chance. If nothing else....It would be cool to see a TRUE "monarch" on the hoof.....even if I had to just watch.

kshunter 06-22-2007 09:08 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Sounds like a good opportunity... Go for it.

YooperMike 06-22-2007 09:10 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Absolutely I would do it. Sounds a great opportunity at potentially very nice deer. I know you have commented in other threads about what you consider to be a good deer for your area, and you could possibly meet those criteria on y our OH hunt. A good friend of mine has a lot of land here in IL, and he has invited me on doe hunts, and they are fun. Saw two GIANTS last year on those hunts, and it is really cool to see them up close.

GMMAT 06-22-2007 09:10 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
I guess I'd have to have something in writing saying I wouldn't shoot anything that he didn't want shot (i.e. a "mistake").

How's $1 an inch for every one over 140" sound?...lol:D

Red Boar 06-22-2007 09:10 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Let's see...no cost, two deer, chance to possibly shoot a huge management deer and the possibly of seeing a deer of a lifetime in field...only if have nothing better planned. Seriously, what a wonderful opportunity...congrats. ;) I am assuming this is a free-ranging outfit?

rybohunter 06-22-2007 09:11 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
I'm closer to OH, you don't want to make that drive....I'll substitute for ya:D

GMMAT 06-22-2007 09:12 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Red Boar.

Good Point....and NO....it is NOT a "free-ranging" outfitter. It is NOT. I didn't point that out....simply because I forgot to. This IS a fenced hunt.

HuntingEd 06-22-2007 09:13 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Do IT!

Let me know if he needs more management help, I'm an expert [8D]

YooperMike 06-22-2007 09:13 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Wow, $1 per inch sounds great. A 200" costs $60!!!

GR8atta2d 06-22-2007 09:15 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: rybohunter

I'm closer to OH, you don't want to make that drive....I'll substitute for ya:D
Closer??...I'm there already!! [8D]

Heck ya.. Go.. as long as free ranging...where is it at?

GMMAT 06-22-2007 09:15 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Yooper it was a joke ($1 an inch).

And I apologize if I misled anyone. I left out the fenced part....because I hadn't thought about that. it wasn't on purpose.

YooperMike 06-22-2007 09:18 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Yooper it was a joke ($1 an inch).

And I apologize if I misled anyone. I left out the fenced part....because I hadn't thought about that. it wasn't on purpose.
I figured it was a joke on the money. High fence or not, still a doe and still a good buck, no charge. If I'm you, I'm going!

Red Boar 06-22-2007 09:18 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Red Boar.

Good Point....and NO....it is NOT a "free-ranging" outfitter. It is NOT. I didn't point that out....simply because I forgot to. This IS a fenced hunt.
I was wondering what the downside was. I was trying to read between the lines. In that case, I'd have to reluctantly follow that little voice in my head know as my conscience and graciously pass on the offer. Believe me, it would be tough to do...but I don't think I could mount or be proud of a trophy that was from a fenced hunt. I wouldn't think badly of you either way...everyone has to do what they are comfortable with.

greenboy 06-22-2007 09:18 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
id totally go for it i mean my fathers biggest deer scored 138 and he had to hunt for 30 years to get one of that size so id say its worth it

GR8atta2d 06-22-2007 09:20 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Red Boar.

Good Point....and NO....it is NOT a "free-ranging" outfitter. It is NOT. I didn't point that out....simply because I forgot to. This IS a fenced hunt.
Hmmm..well what would I do?? gut reaction without thinking about it at all.. I would go for free..and do the management part take my doe(s) but I'd forgo the buck. Nice expirience to see deer etc but not for a trophy.

Are we talking thousands of acres or hundreds?? I dunno..

drhntr178 06-22-2007 09:20 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
GMMAT, if you goteam 17 will let you be on their team for the contest:D

bawanajim 06-22-2007 09:21 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Red Boar.

Good Point....and NO....it is NOT a "free-ranging" outfitter. It is NOT. I didn't point that out....simply because I forgot to. This IS a fenced hunt.

"Fenced" and "hunt" just don't go good in the same sentence. If its in a pen you won't have to hunt it.;)

HuntinGUS 06-22-2007 09:21 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
That's a heck of an opportunity to kill a great buck, but the high fence thing makes it a deal killler for me.

With all of the does you have along with the "bull" in your woods I think you would find that time would be better spent going after him.....just my 2 cents.

YooperMike 06-22-2007 09:23 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: HuntinGUS

That's a heck of an opportunity to kill a great buck, but the high fence thing makes it a deal killler for me.

With all of the does you have along with the "bull" in your woods I think you would find that time would be better spent going after him.....just my 2 cents.
Since high fence places don't have to operate under the same seasons as your state, you could use it as a tune-up for your bow season. Just a thought...

Brknarrow1970 06-22-2007 09:23 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
I guess for me me, it would have to depend on how large the place was. I have never been on a fenced hunt - so can't really comment on how I would feel about it - my first instinct says I wouldn't do it-

If it was free ranging -my response would have been your crazy if you don't

Germ 06-22-2007 09:24 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
I would have said a polite no thanks, with dial tone soon to follow[:-]

GMMAT 06-22-2007 09:25 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Guys I don't have my mind made up at all (assuming all the planets aligned, anyways). Just don't pass judgement on me, personally. I value your opinions on what YOU would do......but please put yourself, REALISTICALLY, in my shoes.

GMMAT 06-22-2007 09:26 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Germ:

I'm doing over a $1M worth of work with this guy. I need him more than he needs me. I won't be rude.

gus...GR8...others....GREAT points. Thanks for your input.

peakrut 06-22-2007 09:29 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Go for it. Sometimes one thing opens up doors for another.

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Outfitter in OH......happens to have a side business that I contract with. JUST called and invited me on a hunt.....at "cost". We talk for a while....and he realizes I know enough not to sound dumb. I offer to do "management" hunt....and he says "no cost".....if I'll take a doe, too.

So....would this be something you would do? it goes back to my "restrictions" thread. I'll be hunting under his "restrictions".....but it'll only cost me an OH license.

I'm guessing I could possibly be looking at a 140"+ "management" deer if it pans out. LOTS of things would have to align.....but I think I'll do it if I get the chance. If nothing else....It would be cool to see a TRUE "monarch" on the hoof.....even if I had to just watch.

YooperMike 06-22-2007 09:30 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Germ:

I'm doing over a $1M worth of work with this guy. I need him more than he needs me. I won't be rude.
Definitely something else to consider, and I think kind of puts you in a pickle as to your decision. I would be going on the hunt, now for two reasons.

ahunter55 06-22-2007 09:31 AM

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"GO" have a great time & enjoy the chance that many "WISH' they had.
Good Luck. I've been Bowhunting 51 years now & I have done "MANY" Bowhunts-I would jump on that in a min..
Like I said "GOOD LUCK" & have "FUN".

bawanajim 06-22-2007 09:39 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

Germ:

I'm doing over a $1M worth of work with this guy. I need him more than he needs me. I won't be rude.

gus...GR8...others....GREAT points. Thanks for your input.
Honda's ,Fat chicks and canned hunts are three things you don't want your Friends to find out you enjoy.;););)

And that is because all three are just plain wrong.................[:o][:'(][:o][:@]

You have unlimited tags for your area and you have stated that the herd needs reduced so do what is right and politely decline.:)

YooperMike 06-22-2007 09:41 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Perhaps you would have been better off to keep this decision private Jeff. Tough crowd you're dealing with here. As far as doing what is right bawana, who made you the expert?

Grandviewer 06-22-2007 09:41 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
If it was my decision to make and I had business ties with him that really mattered that much and this could make things better, it's no brainer - go and have some fun.

Like you said he's got some other awesome monarchs to watch and you'll have a picture I bet of the caul buck to shot. A doe on top for the freezer is a bonus I'd shot the doe first then wait out the buck.
Consider it done if you need a substitute cause I'll volunteer to set in your place;)

HuntinGUS 06-22-2007 09:45 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
The business relationship complicates things IMO. You don't want to insult the man by simply saying no, but you have your standards and morals to consider.

That's a tough one Jeff.

bawanajim 06-22-2007 09:46 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

ORIGINAL: YooperMike

Perhaps you would have been better off to keep this decision private Jeff. Tough crowd you're dealing with here. As far as doing what is right bawana, who made you the expert?
It takes no expertize to know that shooting a tame deer in a pen is wrong.[:'(]

Brknarrow1970 06-22-2007 09:48 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
It a personal decision and if Jeff feels comfortable doing it, I would say go for it. Since he stated he has a working relationship as well this would have some bearing on my decision as well.

People will voice their opinions freely but that is what it should be an opinion- if you have different views that is fine but I don't agree with someone trying to turn their opinion into a judgement

There are no rights and wrongs everyone gains a degree of satisfaction from the way they hunt -

I for one will support Jeff with either decision he makes, because he is a fellow sportsman and we need to stick together

gutshot 06-22-2007 09:50 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Jeff I would look at it as Good Business. I think that if you go into it with the mindset that it's shooting practice and not hunting I would have no problem doing it. Go for it.

NEW61375 06-22-2007 09:50 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Roger that Brknarrow.

GMMAT 06-22-2007 09:51 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
I have no idea what the season dates are....or how they apply to his operation. I'll say this, RIGHT NOW. If it conflicts with what I'm trying to do, here....I won't go. if I can go later (or earlier...which I doubt)in the year....and I've done my part, here.....I will consider it.

bawana....I've owned a few honda cars....but you're on your own with the fat chicks. I have no experience.

I asked here...because I value you guys opinions. I'll still make my own decision. If it's helping him.....and furthering a business relationship.....I WILL consider it. I won't let this get in the way of what I need to do here, though.

And if I were lucky enough to take a buck......you guys bring up a WHOLE new question (RE: having it mounted).

"The Bull" I'm hunting in my woods, this year.......He won't go 100". I can tell you with all sincerity.....that I'd take him over a 150" shot in that guys fence. That's just "me",.....and you guys are on your own (if this type situation arises for you). I won't look at you down my nose, either way.

LittleChief 06-22-2007 09:51 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 

It a personal decision and if Jeff feels comfortable doing it, I would say go for it. Since he stated he has a working relationship as well this would have some bearing on my decision as well.

People will voice their opinions freely but that is what it should be an opinion- if you have different views that is fine but I don't agree with someone trying to turn their opinion into a judgement

There are no rights and wrongs everyone gains a degree of satisfaction from the way they hunt -

I for one will support Jeff with either decision he makes, because he is a fellow sportsman and we need to stick together
Well said, BA. Jeff, if you go, enjoy.:D

JNTURK 06-22-2007 09:55 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
take the politics and persons "personal" opinions out............what does your counscious say??

me personally......i hunt not to keep QDM ( i leave that up to my state), not to get a monster on my wall.......i hunt because i love to eat venison...plan and simple.....

if the deer on the high fence range have a big enough pin (no disease) and the animals are healthy i would do it for the meat.....not for a 140" potential "management" buck as you have stated.....IMO that is not something i would be proud of...........but i would enjoy eating a nicevenison steak:D

bawanajim 06-22-2007 09:57 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
You just mightget tomeet some famous people there ,maybe even get a Jimmy Houston autograph, I here Troy Gentry is always looking for a new place to hunt since he cant go back to Michigan any more. [:'(]

Just remember to pack some nice clean camo cloths for the after the hunt photo shoot....................;)

GMMAT 06-22-2007 09:57 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
JNT....If I don't shoot 8 deer this year....I'll be disappointed. I need to take more.

"Venison" won't be an issue, this year (nor was it last year....when we donated 2 deer to a family). That's probably where this meat would go, as well.

MichaelHunsucker 06-22-2007 09:57 AM

RE: Just got invited on a "management" hunt.
 
Jeff, your a good man and your decision wont change the way i look at you. I would find it hard to pass up when its a fee deal assuming it doesnt interfear with what you got going on in your woods at home...


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