I used to agree with Arthur on this one but now I believe it to be a more individuall choice.


When I last shot competition with a scope,I had gone back to centering the pin over the housing and using a very small peep.I was more accurate this way.



But when hunting,I like the big orange circle that fis my peep perfectly so I can be on target very quickly.



Iset my hunting bow up to do a little 3-d and decided that since I was more accurate shooting my scope with the pin circled,I would use a small peep and circle the pin.Quess what,I wasn't as accurate as I was centering the housing.I went back to the big peep and centereing my housing and haven't looked back.I also like the pin gapping with ease that comes with it.



I know I am backwards from alot but I am used to it.[8D]


I do believe that we as hunters and archers should atleast give both ways an honest effort to see which is actually best for each of us.

I center the housing. I couldn't imagine trying to stack pins by centering the pin either. Whatever works , stick with it!!!!

BKE
I believe the situation was this. My 20-30-40 yd pins I would pretty much center the housing, but since my 50 yd pin was so low, I did have a tendency to center the pinand that was how I subconciously sighted it in. So, when I noticed I was doing that I tried shooting the bottom pin and centered the housing and I hit high. So it ended up I could make the bottom pin a 50 or 55 yarder depending on which way I chose to center.

I know for a fact thats what I do. I'll center my peep on that housing and make sure my level is...well... level then both my eyes open up and I look at the target and nothing else. I have infact, found myself moving my head (gasp) on longer shots...and all I am doing is instinctively centering that pin in the peep. I have closed my left eye again..and found that the guard was no longer centered in the peep. But...as long as I do the same thing everytime....it doesn't really matter what I do. All the peep is there for is to make sure I start off in the same place.

I am confused as to why anyone would think centering the pin in the peep would work better than centering the pin guard. You are in effect creating a tunnel from your eye to the x ring by centering the pin guard in the peep and the xring in the pin guard.

Now, here is where I get a little confused. If you do the above alignment on EVERY shot, no matter the distance, there is only one way to center the correct pin on target. And that is to raise or lower your "tunnel" as I called it above. Correct? Because, if you do not raise or lower the tunnel, you can not effectively get the proper yardage pin on the center of the x. If you do have to raise or lower the tunnel, then where is the pivot point? The back? The shoulder? The arm? There has to be a pivot point somewhere in this equation or else you are not using the "tunnel" (scope) as stated above. Please study the following picture carefully and excuse my artwork.

I am open to any corrections as long as they are logical.

Thanks, LT

Can anyone verify my ignorance or lack thereof on this?

Thanks, LT

Bullhockey I say.[8D] I'm with GMMAT. Center the gang and you're much more accuarat. Not only that you're not as likely to change your anchor or adjust your body to get a decent sight picrture on longer shots. ... and TFox, you were using a single site pin in a scope. Centering a single pin is like centering the whole gang You're center the brackets.

If you center the gang David, how do you adjust for the scope effect? Do you lower/raise your bow arm to center the correct pin for the yardage you are shooting?

LT

Arthur P:

Shame on you for trying to seduce some youngsters with your antiquated tactics. Right as they may appear, they are somewhat obsolete in today's technology and falls in the realm of 'putting butter on a burn'.

Centering circles may be human nature, but discipline and proper anchor pointsused in a multi-pin sighting with a round pin guard will definitely yield better shooting and enhance hunting in low light tremendously.

If you take a look atcrossbow scopes and some of the newer long-range rifle scopes with multiple lines/dots/pins, you may understand the technology better. In these scopes it would be ridiculous to 'cant' or manipulate the scope to put the longest pin in the center. By doing so would turn the round objective and eye into ovals. What is accomplished by proper usage/understandingis maintaining the same anchor points and focal positions and just raising the weapon until the correct pin is on the proper target position.

This method of using a round pin guard and corresponding peepis invaluablefor added hunting opportunities. By increasing the pin guard size and subsequently increasing the peep size, more light is available through the peep and longer time in the woods is the benefit.

Consider the peep as the eye of the scope and the pin guard as the objective. This forms a tube much like a scope.Correct and repeatable anchor points are very necessary for this system to workeffectively. much as you have to maintain proper positioning of your face on the stock of a rifle/shotgun/blackpowder.

While you can be somewhat effective doing ityour 'old fashioned' way, the effectiveness of what I've tried to explain will make you a much better shooter/hunter if instructed/set-up properly. If you find ways to still disagree, you should call all the manufacturers and advise them that all those colored rings that have to be painstakingly put on all those pin guards is a waste of time and money. You'll have to excuse/ignore the laughter over the phone.

So, Len, you are verifying what I posted above? Am I correct in saying the gang should be centered with the scope effect of the peep and sight ring? If so, raising and lowering the bow is the correct way to to put the pin on the target?

Thanks, LT