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zubba 05-15-2007 10:47 AM

RE: Someone I know......
 
............ANYBODY ELSE?!?!?

Rhody Hunter 05-15-2007 10:53 AM

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bawanajim 05-15-2007 10:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65


The kid wasn't trading crack to little Suzie for hummers.
But using your speeding analogy as you did,that wouldn't matter either.
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BowHuntingFool 05-15-2007 10:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: GMMAT


I'm sure the Father knows how the son screwed up big time! If it were me I would let the Father have the talk with his son. Sure your are mad but this is more of a Father/Son situation than anything! I think the kid would get more out of it hearing how he screwed up coming from his Dad! JMO!
His father is the one who allowed a 14 yr old access to a 30-30 rifle to shoot at a game animal on a Sunday that NEITHER one had a clue whether there was a season in for that animal, or not. EVERY situation is different. I know these people REALLY well....and I'll have a separate conversation with dad. MY son's over there, sometimes. If a 14 yr old has carte blanche access to those type firearms.....I need to know it.

I've hunted with this young man before.....and he's been at my house shooting bows. I'll have my own talk with him.....and I'll let dad know that, too. THAT will be fine.

If thats the case I wouldn't let my kid go anywhere near that guys place!!!!!!! Friend or no friend! I don't think poaching is the issue, more of a danger/safety issue! I would talk to the guy about the safety first and THEN the poaching! Sounds like an accident waiting to happen, and I would let my kid be put in that situation!!!! Thats my responsibility as a Father!

BobCo19-65 05-15-2007 11:02 AM

RE: Someone I know......
 
bawanjim, PM me if needed.

GR8atta2d 05-15-2007 11:20 AM

RE: Someone I know......
 
Jeff, I understand your position. But bear in mind that this young fella, has a Dad. Now if you are his outdoor mentor, you deserve to point out his mistakes from a law and personal stand-point. But remember we ourselves have a post pro-claiming the dumb things that we have done. Most of them we learned a valued lesson and grew better because of. So talk to them both (Son and Dad) prefferably together, let them see the error and then end on a positive and forget it.

My 2 cents.

bawanajim 05-15-2007 11:27 AM

RE: Someone I know......
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d

Jeff, I understand your position. But bear in mind that this young fella, has a Dad. Now if you are his outdoor mentor, you deserve to point out his mistakes from a law and personal stand-point. But remember we ourselves have a post pro-claiming the dumb things that we have done. Most of them we learned a valued lesson and grew better because of. So talk to them both (Son and Dad) prefferably together, let them see the error and then end on a positive and forget it.

My 2 cents.
Oh yea five pages in and you want toadd logic.


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statjunk 05-15-2007 11:52 AM

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I also have to agree that he shouldn't have done it but it isn't the end of the world. If you talk down he will continue on his way just not letting you know. If you educate him and he is capable of learning you will change his perception.

I also agree that the speeding example does hold water. I would say more so. You speed you increase the likely hood of hurting others. You kill fox's you are affecting animal populations but you have unlikely but humans at risk. I think it is a very valid comparison. Don't cast stones. Everyone makes bad decisions. Notice I didn't say mistakes. Mistakes are spilling milk not shooting at things.

If a 14 year old has access to a 30-30 at any time, I would call that a potential safety issue and wouldn't let my kid over there. That is a tough call though because folks who live in rural areas usually live with a lot of guns.

Tom

HuntingBry 05-15-2007 12:06 PM

RE: Someone I know......
 

ORIGINAL: GR8atta2d

Jeff, I understand your position. But bear in mind that this young fella, has a Dad. Now if you are his outdoor mentor, you deserve to point out his mistakes from a law and personal stand-point. But remember we ourselves have a post pro-claiming the dumb things that we have done. Most of them we learned a valued lesson and grew better because of. So talk to them both (Son and Dad) prefferably together, let them see the error and then end on a positive and forget it.

My 2 cents.
Best advice yet.

huntingson 05-15-2007 12:14 PM

RE: Someone I know......
 

ORIGINAL: buttonbuckmaster

You've never met a farmer that had chickens, sheep, calves, etc that didn't want coyotes/foxes killed? We have farmers that ask us to shoot coyotes here. Foxes are kinda rare here, but I don't think they would have a problem with us shooting them...in season of course.:D
You think a fox is going to kill a calf? The only things that kill the chickens around here are racoons. A couple of my neighbors hate racoons because they kill the chickens, but no, not one farmer has ever complained to me about a fox or coyote. Now sheep ranchers that I know HATE coyotes, but never heard them complain about a fox. Do I know EVERY farmer and/or rancher? No, I don't. Would anyoneof the farmers around here cared if I killed one? No, they wouldn't one way or the other. Just my experiences. That is all.


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