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Boy you did not blow that ofcontext;)

life is not fair, and it sucks.

Bring the guy to MI we will set him up.

My buddy lost his wife to cancer, and his 400 acers hunting land left to him by his dad. He was part of a club, while he was busy tending to his wife they said the land on him. Life is not fair.

Are there lazy slob hunters, yep. I bet you will fine they are just lazy slobs in life in general. Their are people who get screwed, like your best friends Dad. I bet this guy acts this way in his non-hunting life also(they guy that posted the land).

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:eek:

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So that's your new reply to everything :eek:


I guess you didn't read very closely.


It's unreal how you bounce back and forth between seemingly understanding and then being clueless.......makes me wonder if it is on purpose. Apparently the disinfectant didn't work.

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yes i did, and have seen people fly all over to hunt.

Atlas was the guy jerk or not who took your best friends land?

Did you not blow it waaaaay out of context? yes or no?

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I'm not speaking for Germ here but I thought he was referring to the guy that took the land from your friends father as being a slob.

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http://www.huntofalifetime.org/

He is a great group, maybe we can send him on a trip.

Are you up for it?

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My "answer" and my "perception" of people would ALSO change if I knew they weren't CAPABLE of doing some of the things mentioned. So would EVERYONE else's (No....I won't speak for EVERYONE......I'll say MOST).

Isn't this kinda like asking if you'd give a complete stranger $100? On the surface I'd say "No". But add in the fact that the man is hungry....and his kids are hungry.....and I'd break the bank for him.

If I've misconstrued this totally....I apologize.

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Yes I was, I edit the post to reflect that.


EDIT:

You and your friend can set up hunt I will donate some money. If we get a 100 members(HNI) to donate 100 bucks that is 10,000 dollars we can send them on a trip.

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Kinda like the difference between hearing and listening I guess. I have no desire to keep explaining everything to you.

Sigh.........whatever germ. It's clear you only posted in this thread to argue with me (big surprise) and that is a shame because it was a good thread before the petty garbage derailed it.

I wish people around here would start replying to the topic instead of the author. :eek:

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Oh my god...........you are clueless.

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Thx for not answering the question as usual;)

I am not arguing at all.

Hello pot about derailing threads;)

How? You have offered no details execpt bound to a wheel chair? I offered to help.

This was post 88, per that I posted 2 post about the topic.

Sigh poor Atlas, whatever;)

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I know some who are not selfish...I don;t have a good placeto hunt, I live in central Florida. Another hunter on here from Missouri offered me to hunt at his home. He showed me where to hang my stand ..I bagged one the next morning.

Last year I struck out in FLorida a gain.. A package came in the mail..he sent me a 160 pound deer cut up in roast and tenderloin steaks..This hunter is not selfish. When I bagged my deer he couldn't stop giggling..

I would also say that we hunters who follow the rules are not selfish. I could of easily scored in FLorida a few times but I chose ot leave my flashlight off.;)

Good thread and God bless,
Oh heres my partner I ran into on Hunting.net Strut.

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nice looking buck there, cudos to your friend for helping.

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Chuck,

I agree,most hunters are not selfish

I disagree with you that this is a good thread .....it's idiotic ....

as was said, a hunter is a human, making them flawed .... however, most hunters I know are great guys and gals ..... I think some just like to spread their anger and haughtiness across numerous threads ..... [:'(]

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I see no difference in your posting since you said you were leaving because the only reason you were coming here was to argue.


My friends dad has nothing to do with the thread at all........it was simply an answer to your implication about what I was "thinking".

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That's an awesome story...........thanks.

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I think you are confused about what is being discussed.

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You may be right .... what is being discussed again?

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That's an awesome story...........thanks.
Atlasman

Thanks Sir,
I hope ya fill your freezer up this year with venison.
God bless
C7

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I can see where you are coming from for the most part. I do agree their are alot of hunters with these kind of mentalities. If you asked anyone who knows me, they would tell you that I am far from this kind of person. I realy enjoy letting people that are less fortunet because they dont have their own property to hunt on come out and be able to enjoy what I can do when ever I honestly want. I think that everyone should be able to experience the great outdoors now and then. When I think of an ethical hunter I dont just think of makeing good decisions on shots or the animal to harvest, when ever you get the chance to take someone hunting"especialy kids" you got to open your heart and not worry about things like "I dont want anyone killing my game" because you will leave a memory with them that will probably last the rest of their lives.

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No but I am willing to bet a lot of guys here would help if they could.
As norm details are left out.

What happen just plain sucks to him. IMO

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Not what should be.

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Right back at ya :)

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Forgetit man........you don't get it and I don't feel like explaining it for the 10th time.

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UNBELIEVABLE! ..... ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE!

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i think i found him :)

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We have property, some, not a lot and many stands throughout... We let a couple people in to hunt where we are not.


The people ragging on hunters andcrying for road kill are HYPOCRITES!!! The same people that stay NICE AND FAT eating that double cheeseburger at their backyard BBQ's..

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No. We're not selfish.

"I" am a conservative.....and I still believe good things come to those who work hard for it. I feel like the amount of success is EQUALLY attributed to the amount of effort put forth in most endeavors.

SO.....would I give a man a hunting spot? Nope.

But it's really deeper than that (and most "generalities" are). Am I COMPASSIONATE?

Yes.

Would I give a man a hunting spot? Yes.

Would I give a man ......a total stranger ......money? Nope.
Would I give a man in NEED money. Yes. ANYONE involved in charitable endeavors is doing JUST THAT.

Then again.....maybe I don't "get it" either. There may be a reason none of us are seeming to.

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You don't

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This is advice I'd give anyone.....

If you ask a question.......and don't get the type of answers you're seeking.......

1- you've either asked a stupid question

or

2- you went into the endeavor with a pre-conceived notion that wasn't popular

Either way.....it's not the people answering the question's fault.

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Jeff, I agree ..... Atlas, me thinks you are on an island alone on this one ...

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3- There are 10 pages of other people twisting the question into what "they" want it to mean or getting hung up on things that have nothing to do with the topic. No one had a problem understanding it at the start.

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Because you are confused about who is saying what...........I tried to explain it to you and you weren't interested.

Oh well.

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This has been entertaining to say the least.

I don't believe that hunters are becoming selfish. I believe we've always been that way. It's in our nature. Am I selfish? Of course I am. We all are, to some extent. We're human beings, the only species on the planet with so called higher reasoning capacity. Yes I'm selfish. Does that mean that I'm not compassionate, concerned about the well-being of others, and at times, selfless? Nope. That's in our nature as well.

I can't even imagine taking a P&Y buck with a bow. Would I like to? Heck yes. But why? Why do those of you who hunt exclusively for trophy bucks do so? Bragging rights?Prestige? Self satisfaction? Fulfillment of your personal goal? Whatever your reason, you do it for yourself, and even if that does make you selfish or self-centered, there's nothing wrong with that.

Concerning the road kill deer, I'll be honest. If I saw a 180 class 6x6 buck lying on the side of the road, the thought of the wasted meat wouldn't be what entered my mind. Honestly, it would be "What a shame. I wish I could have killed that thing. I need to hunt here."

Would I give money to a stranger. Yes. I've done it many times. Was I conned or duped? Yes and no, because I knew that chances were the guy/girl was probably making as much as if not more than me playing this part, but what if it's the genuine hard luck case and he/she needs help?"If a man asks for your coat,give him your shirt also." How many of us are too"selfish" to follow this directive?

I would never expect someone who hasscouted his land, set up multiple stands, planted and maintained food plots andmanaged the deer herd to then invite others to come and hunt. Is that selfishness on their part. Maybe, butI really feel that they have a right to be selfish in that situation

I've only met a handful of people in my 43 years that I would calltruly selfless. I'm not one of them. I try to help everyone that I can, but I feel I have to draw the line somewhere. There are always situations where I put my own interests above those of others. We all do at some point. If we didn't, we wouldn't be human.

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I TRULY want to understand your point. Are you asking if we (as a hunting community) don't offer these spots.....because we're "jealous" of what someone else "might" kill on "our" properties?

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I know exactly what he's talking about. If I were hunting in a club with people I didn't know well and I spotted the buck of a lifetime just out of range, I'd think twice about goingback to campthat evening and telling them what I saw. There are people out there who would reposition themselves to get a shot at that deer. Yes, I would say that's being selfish, but I think it's a healthy level of selfishness.

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it's everyone else Atlas .... not you ;)

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Why would I twist my ownquestion?

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I think a better question is why has hunting communitybecome so competitive.

Because of being more competitive we have become more selfish and jealous at the same time and of each other. We use to help each other score a deer, and now we sometimes hinder folks from scoring a deer.Maybe we have lost focus on what hunting is about.
That is his point(IMO)