The moving packers come in 11 days. Ya'll will get a break, I'll be out of internet for a few days or more. I have to meet the truck in NY on the 26 or 27th and come back to Maryland the 30th for settlement on this house. They said it would take them a week or so to turn on my cable service. I didn't want to do it yet because I'd have to have a TV there and have someone meet the guys. Yup, I've been to Len's shop almost every day for the past month or so just packing in the fun while I can. I'll have to come back down every 6 months or so for a bow tune up. LOL I've been spoiled. I have to have my bow MacRotechized. The rest of the world just doesn't know what they don't have.

Well best of luck with the move, sir. Hope it goes well, I was a little worried there for minute.........I mean.....It wouldn't be the first time someone's....................disappeared...[&:][&:][&:]

Wish I was a little closer to Len myself.....that's a shop I would like to visit someday.

what is a macrotecherized bow???

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As far as Matt's picture, it's one of the best crosses between tournament and hunting form that you can get. Congrats Matt.

Aw shucks.......you're makin me blush.

Matt:

Not so fast.

"...one of the best crosses..." May be something like cross-dressing!

Just kidding. But hunting form, IMPO, should allow a lot more flexibility while maintaining certain rigidity in thecase of anchor points. The reason is that the target is unpredictable and the conditions and circumstances can change drastically.

My first question to my customers is what archery discipline intent they have. If it's mainly hunting, which is by far the norm, theyI approach the training toward that end. Ground or stand hunting, for instance,will dictate slight changes in form.

So, to say that something must be 'straight' or 'in line' or dictated in any one way is not always true when hunting. Anchor points, however, are still critical.

Hope this helps some understand the reasons for the differences.

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Just kidding. But hunting form, IMPO, should allow a lot more flexibility while maintaining certain rigidity in thecase of anchor points. The reason is that the target is unpredictable and the conditions and circumstances can change drastically.

This is why I don'texactly have proper indoor spot form.......I need a little hunting form flexibility built in which is why my stance is the way it is and why it's so important for me to be able to (what I call)"stay behind the shot".
I compete in 3D archery only and the demands of shooting in uneven terrain where I might be shooting 40 yards on a 30 degree angle UPHILL on one shot only to turn around and shoot the same distance DOWNHILL.
I need that blend of precision and flexibility.....and of course the foam ain't goin' anywhere so the shot progression is ALL target archery.

When I get into a treestand in the fall, the form is there but the shot progression is much quicker and simply transferred to a different style release that will allow me to shoot as quickly as needed or precisely as needed......everything I do is so repeatable that I can speed up or slow down the process as much as I want and for the most part still get a similar end result

As long as everything else is done properly I (or anyone else)can get away with a surprising amount of command or "punch" in the trigger which is often (reads almost always)a demand in real life hunting situations....... If the archer isn't tuned hunting accuracy will suffer in the transition.

PS. Choose your release wisely!IMO from experience heavy, no travel double sear releases that lend themselves to target archerycan bea liability in the woods.

I agree a ton with what Len has said, even when you look at guys that are indoor spottie shooters only they will vary draw length and form a bit depending on what form of indoor spots they are shooting. NAA (Inner baby X's, rest of yellow 9's) guys will shorten their draw length just a hair which will allow your float to be much smaller, however when you get an erratic shot they tend to miss a bit more but it doesn't matter because all of the yellow is a 9. How when they are shooting 5 spot, they tend to lengthen draw length a bit to allow for a slower more controlled float, however that float covers a bigger area. I vary draw length by about 3/16-1/4" of an inch between 3D/Field and spot/FITA rigs to help me "stay behind" the shots for up and downhill shots that field and 3D present. I also shoot a full half inch shorter dl for hunting than I do for indoors for those shots on really wacky footing and when your off balanced, etc like in a treestand.

Here I am in 3D form last year. I would imagine this is a bit more stretched out than Len likes for hunting.



Here I am in spot form, even more stretched out. Not much, but I am about 3/16" longer here and I am shooting the same model bow as the picture above. Look at my rear elbow position compared to the 3D pic. It isa touch lower and in line with the arrow. I float much slower with the stretched out form like the pic below, but it is difficult to stay behind it for up and down hill shots.