It seems to me that this year, draw cycles for flagship bows from Mathews and BowTech leave alot to be desired. I will probablly be torn apart for this post but I don't care. I keep hearing alot of buzz about the Drenalin and the Guardian, but after finally shooting both of these bows, I think they both are lacking alot as far as drawing the bow back goes. Yes, they are both exceptionally well made, they both exhibit little to no noise and shock, but I just can't get over the draw cycle. Both of these bows seem to be VERY heavy. The Guardian has a very smooth draw force curve but the 60# model I shot felt more like drawing my 70# Old Glory with speed mods. The Drenalin was a 70# model and I could barely get this thing back, it felt like it was set around 85#, its draw force curve was very good as well, but it did seem to have a bigger fall off than the Guardian.

My question is why is this happening? I know that these companies are trying to push out more speed, but it has been shown that this can still happen while having a good drawing bow. My Liberty was nowhere near a "screamer" of a bow, but it was still plenty of fast and I watched a few girls pull it back while set at 70#. Heck, my Allegiance was a screamer and it had a better feel while drawing than both the Drenalin and Guardian. Yeah, these bows are getting faster, but that doesn't mean a thing if you have to lower your draw weight just to get them to feel comfortable while drawing. I'd be willing to bet that I could have comfortably shot my Liberty at 80 pounds, and to get that same feeling draw cycle from the Guardian or Drenalin, they would have to be set at 60-65 pounds.... at that point, the speed differance would be negated.

Jason, I agree with you completely... After I had the shoulder worked on I went to shoot a bunch of bows, because I was nowhere near 100% I shot everything set at 60lbs to compare apples/apples. The draw cycles were rough, at first I thought it was just because my shoulder was weak but then I drew my buddies '04 Xtec set at 63lbs and it felt about half as heavy.

That also had something to do with why I bought the Vectrix... To me (with late model compounds)speed is irrelevant, I buy a bow based on feel and quietness as any bow willget the jobdoneif you put the arrow where it needs to go.

I am shocked that you thought the Drenalin had a hard draw cycle .... I'm not sure I have heard that from anyone else .... I have heard it from the Guardian, but that it also had less hand shock than the Dren ... I am not saying your wrong, just that I haven't heard that as a complaint

Go shoot a ROSS, exact reason why I bought mine. Draw Cycle

I agree with you 100%, there is a price for speed

I have to disagree with you on the Drenalin, I thought that it was exceptionally smooth. I haven't drawn the Guardian but I don't have the least bit of trouble cracking my Dren back on 70#. One mans junk is another mans treasure.

I shoot an '07 Allegiance. What price am I paying?

That is what I have heard and experienced as well .... that bees whise I owns one

I shoot a Commander and love it. I traded my 2006 Old GLory for it and like it even more. I haven't had any problems with the draw cycle. All personal preference I guess.

You'll find out

I'm with PreacherTony and Gutshot. One of the bows that I shot when shopping was a Diamond Liberty 70#. I strained to draw it and my shoulder popped and I almost hit the ground. I stood up and rotated my arm and it popped again. The owner and my wife heard both pops. (I still have shoulder problems from that.) When I shot the Drenalin at 70#, it drew smooth and felt much lighter than the Liberty, and theLiberty is reported to be an easier drawing bow. I don't know why I'm different, but I love the draw cycle on the Drenalin. Guess we're all different.