Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
12-09-2002, 08:12 AM
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Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
Right now Drury Outdoors is employing a man named David Foret(pro staffer). David Foret has been convicted of spotlighting in Illinois and tresspassing in Tennessee(not sure what else) and was a suspect in several other cases where deer were shot and caped. I have personal knowledge of his poaching exploits(I have known him for 15yrs) and have turned him into the game wardens on several occaisions before he ever hooked up with Drury Outdoors. One of his favorite pasttimes was putting in on the Mississippi River when it was flooded and shooting deer that were pushed up on to the ridges. I have contacted Drury to inform them that they are portraying a notorious convicted poacher as one of our "Industry Representatives". However, they are making no plans to even investigate the accusations to see if they are true or not. I personally will be boycotting Drury Outdoor products until they part ways with the poacher.
PS Game Convictions are a matter of public record so anyone here can verify that the information that I am giving you is true.
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PS Game Convictions are a matter of public record so anyone here can verify that the information that I am giving you is true.
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12-09-2002, 08:57 AM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
I don't know about David Foret, but I really like the Drury Bros.
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12-09-2002, 08:58 AM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
And to think..... they could have had someone like me on their staff instead.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I guess I don't qualify, I don't own a boat and haven't been convicted of anything except being crotchetty.<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> I'm sure they didn't know, but it seems like they'd check out such claims or better yet, check it before they hire someone to be in their videos. Being a suspect doesn't count... but I think it should cast enough doubt to have him checked out a little. If they made some kind of a contract with him without any kind of declaration of standards they might NOT beable to do anything.
12-09-2002, 09:11 AM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
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Does it qualify when you hear him brag about killing deer and leaving them and then you see a report on the news of deer being left in the same no hunting zone that he told you himself that he was hunting. I have a close friend that use to poach with him(he changed his ways some time back or we wouldn't be friends now) and he has told me stories that would absolutely curl your hair.
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Like it or not if you buy from Drury you are supporting a poacher. May not bother you but it does me.
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Does it qualify when you hear him brag about killing deer and leaving them and then you see a report on the news of deer being left in the same no hunting zone that he told you himself that he was hunting. I have a close friend that use to poach with him(he changed his ways some time back or we wouldn't be friends now) and he has told me stories that would absolutely curl your hair.
Ben
Like it or not if you buy from Drury you are supporting a poacher. May not bother you but it does me.
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12-09-2002, 09:19 AM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
I think Drury and any other person in the hunting industry needs to rethink employing a convicted poacher. I'll think twice about buying or renting one of their videos - leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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12-09-2002, 09:30 AM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
What county was his IL conviction in? Yes, these things are public record, but it's nearly impossible to verify anything without knowing which of the 90+ counties the records are in.
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12-09-2002, 09:39 AM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
SILENT: I was in no way condoning such actions. I was simply stating a possible reason why they would tell you they aren't checking it out.. However, in their business I don't see how they could not. Contract or not, they should be looking for a way out if it's true. This video stuff is big business and big money. I would suspect a lot of crap goes on we wouldn't like if we knew it. I've bought a couple of their videos, but when the second one I bought had a couple of the same hunts that were on OTHER videos... I stopped. I have over 100 videos but haven't bought one lately and don't intend to... especially ones featuring a poacher.
12-09-2002, 11:46 AM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
That sucks!<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> I really like the Drury Bros. Mark Drury did a seminar on QDM at the archery shop that I work part-time at. It was very informative. I hope that this is not true and if it is I hope they do the right thing.
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12-09-2002, 11:56 AM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
Kidd,
It is not a matter of hoping it isn't true. I know just like I know there's a God in Heaven and the sun's going to come up tomorrow that he is a poacher and has been convicted of such. I understand some being skeptical and some thinking I am jealous etc. that is why I pointed out the fact that it is public record.
JRW,
I don't know what county but I do remember David saying they were hunting the Mississippi River Bottoms. The only 2 places his little grooup has hunted in Illinois that I am aware of is the River Bottoms and near Pittsfield.
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It is not a matter of hoping it isn't true. I know just like I know there's a God in Heaven and the sun's going to come up tomorrow that he is a poacher and has been convicted of such. I understand some being skeptical and some thinking I am jealous etc. that is why I pointed out the fact that it is public record.
JRW,
I don't know what county but I do remember David saying they were hunting the Mississippi River Bottoms. The only 2 places his little grooup has hunted in Illinois that I am aware of is the River Bottoms and near Pittsfield.
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12-09-2002, 12:03 PM
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RE: Drury Outdoors is Employing a Poacher
I just did a quick search on Google. Is this the david Foret your talking about?
SOME ARKANSAS DEER POACHERS JUST DON'T LEARN
The old phrase ``well, he's not a rocket scientist'' might apply to both David Foret, West Memphis, AR and James Troy Williams of Marion, AR. The lure of trophy Illinois white tail deer was just too much for these Arkansas hunters, who routinely traveled to southern Illinois to kill (and poach) trophy bucks.
The investigation of Foret and Williams began in October 1998 when Illinois Conservation Police Officer (CPO) Kenny Moore received information that a group of Arkansas hunters had been spotlighting deer and shooting them with rifles at night. It was explained to CPO Moore that Foret had killed a nice 10 point Illinois white tail by this method.
It was only days later, before CPO Moore had made his first of a series of arrests of these poachers. Williams was caught late at night with an uncased rifle and spotlight inside the vehicle. As the officer was citing Williams for the violations, Foret pulled up to the officers' vehicle with an uncased bow, a violation of Illinois law. Foret was also cited by CPO Moore. This was the first of three arrests coming Foret's way over the next six weeks.
In November, CPO Moore had again located the Arkansas poachers back in Illinois and began to surveil the group. Foret's vehicle was parked near a barn in Pulaski County, IL, and it was decided that Sgt. Monte Burnham would surveil the vehicle until Foret returned. It was known that Foret did not possess any permits to hunt dear during this opening Illinois firearms season.
From the hayloft of the barn, Sgt. Burnham witnessed a pickup truck driving through the field in pursuit of several deer that had been feeding. Rifle shots were heard coming from the vehicle and the vehicle soon left. Instinct told Sgt. Burnham to remain in the barn until Foret returned. Several hours later, Foret returned to his truck and Sgt. Burnham was waiting for him.
Foret admitted to hunting deer without a valid permit and stated that he was inside the truck that was seen driving through the field earlier in the morning. Foret later produced a shotgun that he was hunting with and it was seized. Foret was once again cited by the officers.
CPO Moore also made contact with the other truck and once again it was Williams who was driving. Just like before, Williams had an uncased rifle laying on the floor of the truck. This was the second rifle seized from Williams in weeks and he was again charged by CPO Moore. CPO Moore, determined to prove the information that Foret had poached a deer earlier in October, requested assistance from SA Kevin Wood and SA Timothy Santel since it was likely that the trophy antlers were transported from Illinois to Arkansas.
With grand jury subpoenas in hand, SA Wood was able to convince the Arkansas poaching group that Foret needed to talk. Foret, while returning to Illinois to face the November charges, admitted to the Pulaski County States Attorney that he also illegally killed a trophy 10 point deer in Illinois and transported the antlers to Arkansas.
A negotiated plea agreement was reached and Foret pled guilty in State court to an additional two counts. Foret was fined $2,645 and lost a rifle and shotgun. The deer antlers were returned to the ILDNR. Foret and Williams will likely be revoked from hunting in Illinois for the next five years.
Submitted by Timothy Santel, Region 3 Representative
SOME ARKANSAS DEER POACHERS JUST DON'T LEARN
The old phrase ``well, he's not a rocket scientist'' might apply to both David Foret, West Memphis, AR and James Troy Williams of Marion, AR. The lure of trophy Illinois white tail deer was just too much for these Arkansas hunters, who routinely traveled to southern Illinois to kill (and poach) trophy bucks.
The investigation of Foret and Williams began in October 1998 when Illinois Conservation Police Officer (CPO) Kenny Moore received information that a group of Arkansas hunters had been spotlighting deer and shooting them with rifles at night. It was explained to CPO Moore that Foret had killed a nice 10 point Illinois white tail by this method.
It was only days later, before CPO Moore had made his first of a series of arrests of these poachers. Williams was caught late at night with an uncased rifle and spotlight inside the vehicle. As the officer was citing Williams for the violations, Foret pulled up to the officers' vehicle with an uncased bow, a violation of Illinois law. Foret was also cited by CPO Moore. This was the first of three arrests coming Foret's way over the next six weeks.
In November, CPO Moore had again located the Arkansas poachers back in Illinois and began to surveil the group. Foret's vehicle was parked near a barn in Pulaski County, IL, and it was decided that Sgt. Monte Burnham would surveil the vehicle until Foret returned. It was known that Foret did not possess any permits to hunt dear during this opening Illinois firearms season.
From the hayloft of the barn, Sgt. Burnham witnessed a pickup truck driving through the field in pursuit of several deer that had been feeding. Rifle shots were heard coming from the vehicle and the vehicle soon left. Instinct told Sgt. Burnham to remain in the barn until Foret returned. Several hours later, Foret returned to his truck and Sgt. Burnham was waiting for him.
Foret admitted to hunting deer without a valid permit and stated that he was inside the truck that was seen driving through the field earlier in the morning. Foret later produced a shotgun that he was hunting with and it was seized. Foret was once again cited by the officers.
CPO Moore also made contact with the other truck and once again it was Williams who was driving. Just like before, Williams had an uncased rifle laying on the floor of the truck. This was the second rifle seized from Williams in weeks and he was again charged by CPO Moore. CPO Moore, determined to prove the information that Foret had poached a deer earlier in October, requested assistance from SA Kevin Wood and SA Timothy Santel since it was likely that the trophy antlers were transported from Illinois to Arkansas.
With grand jury subpoenas in hand, SA Wood was able to convince the Arkansas poaching group that Foret needed to talk. Foret, while returning to Illinois to face the November charges, admitted to the Pulaski County States Attorney that he also illegally killed a trophy 10 point deer in Illinois and transported the antlers to Arkansas.
A negotiated plea agreement was reached and Foret pled guilty in State court to an additional two counts. Foret was fined $2,645 and lost a rifle and shotgun. The deer antlers were returned to the ILDNR. Foret and Williams will likely be revoked from hunting in Illinois for the next five years.
Submitted by Timothy Santel, Region 3 Representative