Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
12-21-2006 | 07:46 PM
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RE: Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
I'm with dwd on this one. When I went with lighter arrows I didn't get the results I was used to when shooting deer. Went back to a set up of med weight and I was happy again. I spined a deer(not intended placement so no ethics police needed)this year at 30 yards and still penatrated one lung completely. Arrow was 3/4 buried. I was shooting a 2006Alegence at 275 fps and everyoneknows what that bow is capable of as far as speed so I was way below what it can shoot because I chose a heavier arrow.
12-21-2006 | 07:47 PM
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RE: Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
OH boy, you must have had a fight with the little woman and want to fight.
12-21-2006 | 07:49 PM
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RE: Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
ORIGINAL: Rickmur
I'm with dwd on this one. When I went with lighter arrows I didn't get the results I was used to when shooting deer. Went back to a set up of med weight and I was happy again. I spined a deer(not intended placement so no ethics police needed)this year at 30 yards and still penatrated one lung completely. Arrow was 3/4 buried. I was shooting a 2006Alegence at 275 fps and everyoneknows what that bow is capable of as far as speed so I was way below what it can shoot because I chose a heavier arrow.
I'm with dwd on this one. When I went with lighter arrows I didn't get the results I was used to when shooting deer. Went back to a set up of med weight and I was happy again. I spined a deer(not intended placement so no ethics police needed)this year at 30 yards and still penatrated one lung completely. Arrow was 3/4 buried. I was shooting a 2006Alegence at 275 fps and everyoneknows what that bow is capable of as far as speed so I was way below what it can shoot because I chose a heavier arrow.
A good medium is right on the money of both weight and speed.
12-21-2006 | 07:51 PM
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RE: Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
Ah, I see....at 70 lbs I'm producing 80 ft lbs.... but you see, I cannot tell you the last time my arrow passed completely through an animal. I have entrance and exit holes but not arrow sticking behind the animal. Actually, it was before my ACC's....they weigh in at 381 including the 100 grain head. A heavier arrow will slow my bow but my KE will remain the same however the heavier arrow will have better penetration. I've killed 5 bucks with these arrows out of two different bows, no complete pass throughs, again exit wounds but the arrow remained in the animal.
There is a good reason for heavier arrows.
There is a good reason for heavier arrows.
12-21-2006 | 07:52 PM
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RE: Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
Ah, I see....at 70 lbs I'm producing 80 ft lbs.... but you see, I cannot tell you the last time my arrow passed completely through an animal. I have entrance and exit holes but not arrow sticking behind the animal. Actually, it was before my ACC's....they weigh in at 381 including the 100 grain head. A heavier arrow will slow my bow but my KE will remain the same however the heavier arrow will have better penetration. I've killed 5 bucks with these arrows out of two different bows, no complete pass throughs, again exit wounds but the arrow remained in the animal.
There is a good reason for heavier arrows.
Ah, I see....at 70 lbs I'm producing 80 ft lbs.... but you see, I cannot tell you the last time my arrow passed completely through an animal. I have entrance and exit holes but not arrow sticking behind the animal. Actually, it was before my ACC's....they weigh in at 381 including the 100 grain head. A heavier arrow will slow my bow but my KE will remain the same however the heavier arrow will have better penetration. I've killed 5 bucks with these arrows out of two different bows, no complete pass throughs, again exit wounds but the arrow remained in the animal.
There is a good reason for heavier arrows.
. I honestly can't tell you the lastanimal(hogs included)my arrow didn't pass completely through...
12-21-2006 | 07:56 PM
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RE: Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
Keep on track fellas....keep on track.....
Both of my deer were pass through's this year as well. One was buried 6" deep in the ground, the other I just couldn't find...I don't think it ever stopped..... Rob, I agree those ACC's are mighty fine arrows, I almost hate to give them up, but they just weigh too much....Superlite or no.....
Both of my deer were pass through's this year as well. One was buried 6" deep in the ground, the other I just couldn't find...I don't think it ever stopped.....
Rob, I agree those ACC's are mighty fine arrows, I almost hate to give them up, but they just weigh too much....Superlite or no.....
12-21-2006 | 07:56 PM
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RE: Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
I can't explain it, the last 5 bucks I've taken from 2000-2006 I have not passed through.
One gut shot, see recovery thread buck...no pass through, recovered the deer with arrow in the cavity.
3 bucks, perfect double lungs, no pass through, recovered animals with arrow in cavity.
This years buck was a spine so that's understandable.
Again, can't explain it, you have to figure all but 80 ft lbs on an arrow at 301 this year, slightly less the last 5 with an arrow at 285 fps....
Anyone?
One gut shot, see recovery thread buck...no pass through, recovered the deer with arrow in the cavity.
3 bucks, perfect double lungs, no pass through, recovered animals with arrow in cavity.
This years buck was a spine so that's understandable.
Again, can't explain it, you have to figure all but 80 ft lbs on an arrow at 301 this year, slightly less the last 5 with an arrow at 285 fps....
Anyone?
12-21-2006 | 07:57 PM
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RE: Heavy arrow, more KE....light arrow, more speed..??
Yep. Mechanical broadheads. You have been using Snyper's, yes? They just eat up the KE......of course, you've also used Muzzy......so that blows that theory out of the water....