WI hunters kill wolves
12-15-2006 | 08:28 AM
#41
Nontypical Buck
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From: Sheboygan, Wisconsin
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
I have a friend who was bowhunting up in Eagle River last year. When walking back to his truck he came upon 2 wolves. They stopped and just starred at him. He slowly backed off and they went on there way. He said he was never so scared in his life.
I would like it if they just give out a certain amount of tags each year. Like a lottery way. That would keep people happy and manage this freackin things.
But if I had it my way, there wouldn't be a season. Just shoot'em all. What are they good for?
I would like it if they just give out a certain amount of tags each year. Like a lottery way. That would keep people happy and manage this freackin things.
But if I had it my way, there wouldn't be a season. Just shoot'em all. What are they good for?
12-15-2006 | 08:34 AM
#42
Nontypical Buck
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From: wisconsin
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
Not to start anything Dan but why did you shoot her to begin with?Thats a pretty hide,and i would have done the same.And i wasnt there but its probobly good for you that you shot mom first and not a pup.(ever walk up on a baby coon in a cagetrap in early summer?)You could have been the second fatality in north america in history(according to record i guess)
Now wouldnt that be embarrasing!!!
Now wouldnt that be embarrasing!!!
12-15-2006 | 09:19 AM
#43
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From: Finger Lakes, NY/Mass
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
Wisconsin has a deer population of appproxiomately 1.5 million deer. Assuming your numbers are correct, wolves kill 22,500 deer (450 wolves X 50 deer)annually, or approximately 1 1/2% of the population. 45,000 deer aresalvaged annually from vehicle crashes. Salvaged means reported, tagged and carried away. The actual numbers of deer killed by vehicles is much higher. This data is available on the WI DNR site. Google it if interested.
My point in this discussion is not, and has not been, to discuss the value of reintroducing the wolf into any state or geographic area. My issue is the open support in this post for breaking the law. I was always taught and taught my children that whether you agree with alaw, rule or decision, you obey it until it's rescinded.
I learned this lesson well from my parents and especially well while in the service of my country. I never disobeyed or debated an order from a superior officer, even if I disagreed vehemently because I knew better.
My concern is for the youth that reads these posts and get the idea that as long as one disagrees with the basis of a law,they're free to break it.By the way, I grew up in a rural community and for my money you can take the SSS rule and bury it along with all of the other macho BS that's been promoted in this thread.
laxdad
My point in this discussion is not, and has not been, to discuss the value of reintroducing the wolf into any state or geographic area. My issue is the open support in this post for breaking the law. I was always taught and taught my children that whether you agree with alaw, rule or decision, you obey it until it's rescinded.
I learned this lesson well from my parents and especially well while in the service of my country. I never disobeyed or debated an order from a superior officer, even if I disagreed vehemently because I knew better.
My concern is for the youth that reads these posts and get the idea that as long as one disagrees with the basis of a law,they're free to break it.By the way, I grew up in a rural community and for my money you can take the SSS rule and bury it along with all of the other macho BS that's been promoted in this thread.
laxdad
12-15-2006 | 09:36 AM
#44
Nontypical Buck
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From: wisconsin
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
I dont see alot of posts condoning law breaking.Just a bunch of opinions on wolves.Some people may want to kill them all.Mabe one day,they will get there chance.Laws can change.The only one i saw was Dans and that was in Canada.No laws broke there,as far as i can see.Now if i had livestock(which i dont) and it was getting tore up by wolves,Id take corrective action.Thats what i do for a living,Animal Dammage Control.It doesnt mean id kill them-And it doesnt mean i wouldnt.If I had to resort to lethal means,im sure i could find a way to pull a permit and fix the situation.
ORIGINAL: laxdad
Wisconsin has a deer population of appproxiomately 1.5 million deer. Assuming your numbers are correct, wolves kill 22,500 deer (450 wolves X 50 deer)annually, or approximately 1 1/2% of the population. 45,000 deer aresalvaged annually from vehicle crashes. Salvaged means reported, tagged and carried away. The actual numbers of deer killed by vehicles is much higher. This data is available on the WI DNR site. Google it if interested.
My point in this discussion is not, and has not been, to discuss the value of reintroducing the wolf into any state or geographic area. My issue is the open support in this post for breaking the law. I was always taught and taught my children that whether you agree with alaw, rule or decision, you obey it until it's rescinded.
I learned this lesson well from my parents and especially well while in the service of my country. I never disobeyed or debated an order from a superior officer, even if I disagreed vehemently because I knew better.
My concern is for the youth that reads these posts and get the idea that as long as one disagrees with the basis of a law,they're free to break it.By the way, I grew up in a rural community and for my money you can take the SSS rule and bury it along with all of the other macho BS that's been promoted in this thread.
laxdad
Wisconsin has a deer population of appproxiomately 1.5 million deer. Assuming your numbers are correct, wolves kill 22,500 deer (450 wolves X 50 deer)annually, or approximately 1 1/2% of the population. 45,000 deer aresalvaged annually from vehicle crashes. Salvaged means reported, tagged and carried away. The actual numbers of deer killed by vehicles is much higher. This data is available on the WI DNR site. Google it if interested.
My point in this discussion is not, and has not been, to discuss the value of reintroducing the wolf into any state or geographic area. My issue is the open support in this post for breaking the law. I was always taught and taught my children that whether you agree with alaw, rule or decision, you obey it until it's rescinded.
I learned this lesson well from my parents and especially well while in the service of my country. I never disobeyed or debated an order from a superior officer, even if I disagreed vehemently because I knew better.
My concern is for the youth that reads these posts and get the idea that as long as one disagrees with the basis of a law,they're free to break it.By the way, I grew up in a rural community and for my money you can take the SSS rule and bury it along with all of the other macho BS that's been promoted in this thread.
laxdad
12-15-2006 | 10:03 AM
#45
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From: Wisconsin and Canada
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
ORIGINAL: furgitter
Not to start anything Dan but why did you shoot her to begin with?Thats a pretty hide,and i would have done the same.And i wasnt there but its probobly good for you that you shot mom first and not a pup.(ever walk up on a baby coon in a cagetrap in early summer?)You could have been the second fatality in north america in history(according to record i guess)
Now wouldnt that be embarrasing!!!
Not to start anything Dan but why did you shoot her to begin with?Thats a pretty hide,and i would have done the same.And i wasnt there but its probobly good for you that you shot mom first and not a pup.(ever walk up on a baby coon in a cagetrap in early summer?)You could have been the second fatality in north america in history(according to record i guess)
Now wouldnt that be embarrasing!!!
I shot her because it was the first wolf I had a chance to shoot in my life. I did not know it was a female with pups until after I shot her and my brother-in-law shot one of the male pups. The pups were 70lbs and she was 85lbs. There was not much difference in size, so it was hard to tell.
Yes, every one of the wolves I have ever shot have been legal. I have the tags, licneses and C.I.T.E.S. permits to prove it. What would I do if I saw one in WI. I'd be amazed at the sight, feel blessed that I got a chance to see the rare WI wolf, and let it walk away.
12-15-2006 | 10:49 AM
#46
Nontypical Buck
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From: Sheboygan, Wisconsin
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
I thought I saw a show on the outdoor channel that a guy used his deer tag to tag a wolf. He said it was all legal. Is this true?
Forgot to put he was in Canada, Sorry!
Forgot to put he was in Canada, Sorry!
12-15-2006 | 11:16 AM
#47
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From: wisconsin
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
Like i said Dan,you didnt break any laws and you dont need to prove anything to me.Hell, youve had more contact with wolves than i have.I dont trust the darn things,I hope thats o.k with everyone on here.
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My scuba instructor told me why he wore the super fast fins,was because of sharks.I asked if he thaught he could out swim a shark and he said...I only have to outswim YOU!
12-15-2006 | 11:27 AM
#48
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From: Wisconsin and Canada
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
ORIGINAL: lrhuntr
I thought I saw a show on the outdoor channel that a guy used his deer tag to tag a wolf. He said it was all legal. Is this true?
Forgot to put he was in Canada, Sorry!
I thought I saw a show on the outdoor channel that a guy used his deer tag to tag a wolf. He said it was all legal. Is this true?
Forgot to put he was in Canada, Sorry!
12-15-2006 | 02:31 PM
#50
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From: Jacksonville,IL
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
I have read all the reply on this topic and felt I needed to add a reply myself. I have read were wolves kill cattle and humans and how horrible they are and that all should be killed. I only have a few questions as to why this is. I have never seen a wolf in the wild because I live in central IL and there are none here that I know of. So on with the questions. why is cattle considered more valueable than crops. Deer destroy numerous crops and fields costing alot of money to farmers each year. And why is a wolf that has hardly any documented cases of acting humans worse for humanes than deer that are hit by cars each year and do cause deaths to humans. I am not trying to start an arguement but I just do not see how wolves are so much of a worse animal than a deer. If we were on here saying kill every deer we saw there would be all kinds of posts stating let them grow and all. I feel until they make it legal to hunt them they should be left alone.