WI hunters kill wolves
12-16-2006 | 05:39 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: WI hunters kill wolves
Thats a good point Greg.Out of the two,Id side with the wolves too in alot of cases.Unfortunately i dont see population control on humans going over so well.Your chances of being bitten by a shark in the ocean are pretty slim.Unless you practacly live in the water.Your chances of having any encounter with a wolf are pretty slim,unless you practacly live in the woods.I teach my children not to trust strangers, they probobly wont hurt you,but why take the chance.30 years ago a kid could go camping out in the middle of nowhere for the weekend with his buddies,i used to do it all the time.I didnt carry a firearm,didnt need one.No seasion was open.Now I wont go in the woods without my carbine,unless im bow hunting.I may never need it,but its better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
12-16-2006 | 05:56 PM
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RE: WI hunters kill wolves
ORIGINAL: furgitter
Your chances of having any encounter with a wolf are pretty slim,unless you practacly live in the woods.
Your chances of having any encounter with a wolf are pretty slim,unless you practacly live in the woods.
I don't want to be rude, but you need to get an education on wolves before you keep up with the nonsense you are spewing. Until then, good luck hunting!
12-16-2006 | 06:43 PM
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RE: WI hunters kill wolves
I wish you and your knife luck too dude.I didnt mean to spew nonsence all over your new boots.Im not that confident with a blade i guess.I suppose ive had too many big cats sneaking up on me and now im just paranoid.Back then i didnt carry,and the only thing that saved me was eye contact.As soon as i looked at them,they split.But untill then,im realy convinced,that i was a prospect.Im not taking chances like that any more.They are the fittest,and i want to survive.I dont think thats nonsence at all.
12-16-2006 | 08:58 PM
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RE: WI hunters kill wolves
450 or 500 wolves, I'm still not buying it. Maybe in Douglas and Bayfield counties. That doesn't include, Ashland, Sauk, and any other northern counties. I wouldn't hesitate to say that there are easily 1,000 wolves in just the northern half of Wisconsin. What makes everyone think that Northern Wisconsin is so different than Northern Minnesota? Ecologically, they are virtually the same. Ask Minnesotans that live north of Grand Rapids how many wolves are in their state. It's not 450, and there isn't 450 in Wisconsin either.
Here is a little math for you to chew on. Say you've been hunting the family farm of 640 acres, or1 sq. mile,since you've been born. You're in the Northern region of Wisconsin where 20 deer per sq. mile is not uncommon. Recently a pack of 5 wolves has moved into your hunting area and you've noticed a sharp decline in the number of deer sightings. I wonder why. 5 wolves at 20 deer per year is 100 deer. Your land on average will hold 20 deer. Those wolves build a den there and decide to stick around for 3 months. Simple math would say that those5 wolves would consume 25 deer in those three months.But your farm, on average, will only sustain 25 deer. I wonder why there arent' any deer on the family farm.
Here is a little math for you to chew on. Say you've been hunting the family farm of 640 acres, or1 sq. mile,since you've been born. You're in the Northern region of Wisconsin where 20 deer per sq. mile is not uncommon. Recently a pack of 5 wolves has moved into your hunting area and you've noticed a sharp decline in the number of deer sightings. I wonder why. 5 wolves at 20 deer per year is 100 deer. Your land on average will hold 20 deer. Those wolves build a den there and decide to stick around for 3 months. Simple math would say that those5 wolves would consume 25 deer in those three months.But your farm, on average, will only sustain 25 deer. I wonder why there arent' any deer on the family farm.
12-16-2006 | 10:47 PM
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RE: WI hunters kill wolves
ORIGINAL: James Vee
450 or 500 wolves, I'm still not buying it. Maybe in Douglas and Bayfield counties. That doesn't include, Ashland, Sauk, and any other northern counties. I wouldn't hesitate to say that there are easily 1,000 wolves in just the northern half of Wisconsin. What makes everyone think that Northern Wisconsin is so different than Northern Minnesota? Ecologically, they are virtually the same. Ask Minnesotans that live north of Grand Rapids how many wolves are in their state. It's not 450, and there isn't 450 in Wisconsin either.
Here is a little math for you to chew on. Say you've been hunting the family farm of 640 acres, or1 sq. mile,since you've been born. You're in the Northern region of Wisconsin where 20 deer per sq. mile is not uncommon. Recently a pack of 5 wolves has moved into your hunting area and you've noticed a sharp decline in the number of deer sightings. I wonder why. 5 wolves at 20 deer per year is 100 deer. Your land on average will hold 20 deer. Those wolves build a den there and decide to stick around for 3 months. Simple math would say that those5 wolves would consume 25 deer in those three months.But your farm, on average, will only sustain 25 deer. I wonder why there arent' any deer on the family farm.
450 or 500 wolves, I'm still not buying it. Maybe in Douglas and Bayfield counties. That doesn't include, Ashland, Sauk, and any other northern counties. I wouldn't hesitate to say that there are easily 1,000 wolves in just the northern half of Wisconsin. What makes everyone think that Northern Wisconsin is so different than Northern Minnesota? Ecologically, they are virtually the same. Ask Minnesotans that live north of Grand Rapids how many wolves are in their state. It's not 450, and there isn't 450 in Wisconsin either.
Here is a little math for you to chew on. Say you've been hunting the family farm of 640 acres, or1 sq. mile,since you've been born. You're in the Northern region of Wisconsin where 20 deer per sq. mile is not uncommon. Recently a pack of 5 wolves has moved into your hunting area and you've noticed a sharp decline in the number of deer sightings. I wonder why. 5 wolves at 20 deer per year is 100 deer. Your land on average will hold 20 deer. Those wolves build a den there and decide to stick around for 3 months. Simple math would say that those5 wolves would consume 25 deer in those three months.But your farm, on average, will only sustain 25 deer. I wonder why there arent' any deer on the family farm.
I can tell you for a fact that the wolves will not hang out in that 1 sq mile for 3 months. Those 5 wolves have a range of over 100sq miles. Therefore will only be killing around 1 deer per sq mile. Thats far less that what hunters take off a given property in a year.
I'm sorry, but the wolves do not have that big of an impact on the deer herd.
12-17-2006 | 04:40 AM
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RE: WI hunters kill wolves
ORIGINAL: _Dan
James,
I can tell you for a fact that the wolves will not hang out in that 1 sq mile for 3 months. Those 5 wolves have a range of over 100sq miles. Therefore will only be killing around 1 deer per sq mile. Thats far less that what hunters take off a given property in a year.
I'm sorry, but the wolves do not have that big of an impact on the deer herd.
ORIGINAL: James Vee
450 or 500 wolves, I'm still not buying it. Maybe in Douglas and Bayfield counties. That doesn't include, Ashland, Sauk, and any other northern counties. I wouldn't hesitate to say that there are easily 1,000 wolves in just the northern half of Wisconsin. What makes everyone think that Northern Wisconsin is so different than Northern Minnesota? Ecologically, they are virtually the same. Ask Minnesotans that live north of Grand Rapids how many wolves are in their state. It's not 450, and there isn't 450 in Wisconsin either.
Here is a little math for you to chew on. Say you've been hunting the family farm of 640 acres, or1 sq. mile,since you've been born. You're in the Northern region of Wisconsin where 20 deer per sq. mile is not uncommon. Recently a pack of 5 wolves has moved into your hunting area and you've noticed a sharp decline in the number of deer sightings. I wonder why. 5 wolves at 20 deer per year is 100 deer. Your land on average will hold 20 deer. Those wolves build a den there and decide to stick around for 3 months. Simple math would say that those5 wolves would consume 25 deer in those three months.But your farm, on average, will only sustain 25 deer. I wonder why there arent' any deer on the family farm.
450 or 500 wolves, I'm still not buying it. Maybe in Douglas and Bayfield counties. That doesn't include, Ashland, Sauk, and any other northern counties. I wouldn't hesitate to say that there are easily 1,000 wolves in just the northern half of Wisconsin. What makes everyone think that Northern Wisconsin is so different than Northern Minnesota? Ecologically, they are virtually the same. Ask Minnesotans that live north of Grand Rapids how many wolves are in their state. It's not 450, and there isn't 450 in Wisconsin either.
Here is a little math for you to chew on. Say you've been hunting the family farm of 640 acres, or1 sq. mile,since you've been born. You're in the Northern region of Wisconsin where 20 deer per sq. mile is not uncommon. Recently a pack of 5 wolves has moved into your hunting area and you've noticed a sharp decline in the number of deer sightings. I wonder why. 5 wolves at 20 deer per year is 100 deer. Your land on average will hold 20 deer. Those wolves build a den there and decide to stick around for 3 months. Simple math would say that those5 wolves would consume 25 deer in those three months.But your farm, on average, will only sustain 25 deer. I wonder why there arent' any deer on the family farm.
I can tell you for a fact that the wolves will not hang out in that 1 sq mile for 3 months. Those 5 wolves have a range of over 100sq miles. Therefore will only be killing around 1 deer per sq mile. Thats far less that what hunters take off a given property in a year.
I'm sorry, but the wolves do not have that big of an impact on the deer herd.
I've read enough history, both local and world, with no intension of learning about the wolf, that detailed mans struggles with the wolf to know I don't care to live with them. Interestingly enough that same history predicts that man one day will be the dinner of not just the wolf but all predators, so the current love affair that some have for them is no surprise to me. They have to get there some how, if things are to be as thought to be.
An interesting observation. People often resemble the dog/cannine they love, in looks and characteristics.
Here's another. The American natives attacked the settlers in the night. What were they resembling when they did? What gave them the idea?
12-17-2006 | 07:56 AM
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RE: WI hunters kill wolves
Attacking at night may have been learned by watching wolves,bears,raccoons,oppossums,skunks.....almost anything realy.Using a bow at night may have been a plus because there eyes were already adapted to the dark before the attack, and was not ruined by muzzle flash.
Ill concur that they do tear up the coyotes,and i apreciate that.A pack of coyotes can do more dammage than one wolf.Ive caught 20 coyotes i a single back yard,in 10 days.They were over running the place.Nobody could own a dog because it got snatched off the porch as soon as they got it.Sometimes peoples dogs got snatched off the leash while the owners were walking them in the daytime! That month I caught 150 coyotes and quit keeping count.Its a big world out there,And animals act differantly where ever you go.
Ill concur that they do tear up the coyotes,and i apreciate that.A pack of coyotes can do more dammage than one wolf.Ive caught 20 coyotes i a single back yard,in 10 days.They were over running the place.Nobody could own a dog because it got snatched off the porch as soon as they got it.Sometimes peoples dogs got snatched off the leash while the owners were walking them in the daytime! That month I caught 150 coyotes and quit keeping count.Its a big world out there,And animals act differantly where ever you go.
12-17-2006 | 08:17 AM
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Fork Horn
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From: galesville, wisconsin
RE: WI hunters kill wolves
damn right!! the dnr is always off on their numbers..they think there are far more deer in the state than there are and they think there are far fewer wolves in the state than there really are!!! they never tell us the truth!!