What the heck happened? I am really confused!
11-28-2006 | 09:37 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: What the heck happened? I am really confused!
I didn't read the other posts, but sounds like the norm really, but you did take a bad shot.
Here is an idea for anyone that is reading. If you take a shot like this, you've decided to do a diservice to everyone. The deer, hunters in general and yourself. But, as if the shot wasn't bad enough, you come here and post it for the entire world to see. To many people, you represent "hunting", you know, since you are a hunter and you do subscribe to this web page. So people (or nonhunters) are going to read your post and associate your actions with all of us. And now you act as if you don't understand why people puff up their chests.
Here is an idea - if you ever take a shot like that again, go find the deer. The internet isn't going to go find it for you. As far as I know there isn't a helpmefindmydeer web site, so why aren't you outside looking? What were you actually doing here? Looking for everyone to say "it's ok, don't worry about it, we wound deer all the time, and leave them to die for nothing" so that you could be lazy and go hunting again tomorrow only to repeat the same thing and then repost! Or were you actually looking for help? If I were looking for help, I think I'd go read an article on how to track game, or better yet, I would try to already know how before I went hunting.
Step away from the PC - now go find the deer. If you wanthelp, as a friend, relative or neighbor to help you look. Or better yet get a dog.
Good luck, learn something from this, don't post crap.
Here is an idea for anyone that is reading. If you take a shot like this, you've decided to do a diservice to everyone. The deer, hunters in general and yourself. But, as if the shot wasn't bad enough, you come here and post it for the entire world to see. To many people, you represent "hunting", you know, since you are a hunter and you do subscribe to this web page. So people (or nonhunters) are going to read your post and associate your actions with all of us. And now you act as if you don't understand why people puff up their chests.
Here is an idea - if you ever take a shot like that again, go find the deer. The internet isn't going to go find it for you. As far as I know there isn't a helpmefindmydeer web site, so why aren't you outside looking? What were you actually doing here? Looking for everyone to say "it's ok, don't worry about it, we wound deer all the time, and leave them to die for nothing" so that you could be lazy and go hunting again tomorrow only to repeat the same thing and then repost! Or were you actually looking for help? If I were looking for help, I think I'd go read an article on how to track game, or better yet, I would try to already know how before I went hunting.
Step away from the PC - now go find the deer. If you wanthelp, as a friend, relative or neighbor to help you look. Or better yet get a dog.
Good luck, learn something from this, don't post crap.
11-28-2006 | 09:45 AM
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RE: What the heck happened? I am really confused!
ORIGINAL: longislandhunter
Ok here is the deal. I was posted up on the edge of a field right before sunset.I saw 5 bucks that afternoon the biggest being a big split brow tine eleven point,but could not get them close enough for a shot. Anyway right before shooting light dissapeared I had a nice 7 or eight point come out in the field about 60 yards away. I grunted at him and he started walking directly at me, head on. I came to full draw and he stopped at about 25 yards away. He was slightly quartering and I knew that I had to shoot before it got to dark or he busted me. I aimed right behind his shoulder although it was almost a straight on shot. i let the arrow go and he jumped up and ran off about 30 yards and just stopped. Just then i heard a bubbling/hissing noise and figured it was his lung deflating. Suddenly he started making what sounded like a choking noise and he kept moving his head like crazy. He walked around in a 20 foot circle for 5 minutes and it looked like he was going to collapse, he looked to be limping. he kept making that same weird choking noise and moving his head back and fourth. He then slowly walked away and at 50 yards i could not see him anymore because it got to dark.I waited an hour and found my arrow. Here is where it gets weid. No blood on the arrow and no deer.I am so confused, this deer acted crazy I figured he was definitely hit. What do you guys think happened. I had to miss if there was no blood, right? Why would he act that way? Is there any spot like the neck or esophagus that would not leave blood? please help me.
thanks
Thanks
Ok here is the deal. I was posted up on the edge of a field right before sunset.I saw 5 bucks that afternoon the biggest being a big split brow tine eleven point,but could not get them close enough for a shot. Anyway right before shooting light dissapeared I had a nice 7 or eight point come out in the field about 60 yards away. I grunted at him and he started walking directly at me, head on. I came to full draw and he stopped at about 25 yards away. He was slightly quartering and I knew that I had to shoot before it got to dark or he busted me. I aimed right behind his shoulder although it was almost a straight on shot. i let the arrow go and he jumped up and ran off about 30 yards and just stopped. Just then i heard a bubbling/hissing noise and figured it was his lung deflating. Suddenly he started making what sounded like a choking noise and he kept moving his head like crazy. He walked around in a 20 foot circle for 5 minutes and it looked like he was going to collapse, he looked to be limping. he kept making that same weird choking noise and moving his head back and fourth. He then slowly walked away and at 50 yards i could not see him anymore because it got to dark.I waited an hour and found my arrow. Here is where it gets weid. No blood on the arrow and no deer.I am so confused, this deer acted crazy I figured he was definitely hit. What do you guys think happened. I had to miss if there was no blood, right? Why would he act that way? Is there any spot like the neck or esophagus that would not leave blood? please help me.
thanks
Thanks
1. I am sure you are going to get flamed, and rightly so, for being a total idiot and taking a head one shot.
2. Learn to take ethical shots, please, so we dont have to yell at your again.
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11-28-2006 | 09:48 AM
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RE: What the heck happened? I am really confused!
so take this advice to be a better person. stop being so bitter and self righteous, you will catch more flies with honey then you will with vinegar.
It works both ways.
Jeff
11-28-2006 | 09:49 AM
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RE: What the heck happened? I am really confused!
ORIGINAL: Charlie P
Long Islanders
If you can barely see in NY you are shooting past legal hours, no biggie it's a dumb rule.
Long Islanders
If you can barely see in NY you are shooting past legal hours, no biggie it's a dumb rule.
11-28-2006 | 09:52 AM
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RE: What the heck happened? I am really confused!
I grunted at him and he started walking directly at me, head on. I came to full draw and he stopped at about 25 yards away. He was slightly quartering and I knew that I had to shoot before it got to dark or he busted me. I aimed right behind his shoulder although it was almost a straight on shot.
BTW: Glad to hear the deer escaped unscathed. Now, you have a chance to redeem your self. Good luck!
***I think the red star is meant for a bullet.
11-28-2006 | 10:09 AM
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RE: What the heck happened? I am really confused!
The first picture is almost exact, except i aimedbehind the shoulder instead of in front. That was the real mistakebut anyway i give up. Self righteous was an understatement. I can't believe how many perfect people and professional hunters belong to this site. You all insist on going and going, becoming more insulting as it goes.
Like I said I give up.
Once i become the "perfect hunter" i will start posting again. I cant believe there are only two people on here that think these comments are completely insane, childish and self-righteous. Maybe I am crazy.
Like I said I give up.
Once i become the "perfect hunter" i will start posting again. I cant believe there are only two people on here that think these comments are completely insane, childish and self-righteous. Maybe I am crazy.
11-28-2006 | 10:21 AM
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RE: What the heck happened? I am really confused!
Here is what you were dealing with (see attachment). This skeleton is more on a head on basis though then your shot. In the angle which you said you shot at, those large bones between the leg and ths shoulder blade come into play. If you were in a stand, then the shoulder blade will come into play. In any case there is heavy bone which would have to be shot though or aroundwithout deflection possibilities to get the double lung. Tough shot.
11-28-2006 | 10:28 AM
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RE: What the heck happened? I am really confused!
Icould kill that buck in the top pic IF my arrow went where I wanted it too. Thats the kicker though....IF
You have a better margin of error with a broadside shot. Those quartering-into shots are tricky and should not be taken. (You know that by now
)
In my experiences, a deer will eventually turn and allow for a better shot. It may take a little while but it more than likely will happen. If not, theres always next time.
I'm done and Good luck!
You have a better margin of error with a broadside shot. Those quartering-into shots are tricky and should not be taken. (You know that by now
)In my experiences, a deer will eventually turn and allow for a better shot. It may take a little while but it more than likely will happen. If not, theres always next time.
I'm done and Good luck!
