I have to agree with Huntingbry. I was in a wildlife biology program until my Senior year in college when I transferred to another major. Whitetail deer studies were the brunt of the program. From what I can remember, the only reason button bucks, (and doe fawns for that matter) are allowed to be shot is because "mistakes" would be all too common. I don't remember ever reading anything that suggested that shooting fawns was good for the population.

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Now I clearly remember why I quit posting on the Bowhunting forum. The "Dudley-do-rights" of this board are pathetic. A mistake is a mistake, these guys would never admit it here, that they make them too. Unethical is one thing, mistakes are another.

LadyBowhunter, please give your dad my congrats. I'm sure he was excited too. Killing a deer with a bow is truly a rush.

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First to make it clear I have no problem with him shooting the button buck's it was leagal it's not some thing I would do POURPOSLY or want someone else onmy property doing but.... Now to the guy's who are saying you should shoot every antlerless well guess what yea leagaly it may be CONSIDERED a doe but technicaly it is buck thats why it has a set of balls and buttons on it's head. So for every button buck you kill that's one less rack buck next year. Then to the guy who claimes most button buck die over winter COMPLETE HOG WASH I would like to see where these deer are dropping dead all over the place at. If just to say this is the case and doe's have more button bucks than doe's maybe that would be becouse they need to have more buck's so they live not so joe blow can blast a whole bunch of them. Personaly I belive that the reason there are more buck fawns born is becouse mother nature is trying to balance out he buck to doe ratio. SJHUNTER I have some advise for you if button buck's will ultimatly die then how come I killed a nine point 3 weeks ago what do you think storks come along and drop of buck's? Here is your advise just becouse someone writes an artical doesn't mean he is an expert ans just becouse you read it or saw it on tv. doesn't make it true!!!!!!!!!!! Get real man you honestly can't believe that all button buck's will ultimatly die your a real hoot bro that's the best one I have heard in a while. Then to all that say taking a baby deer is the best bow kill becouse he hit a fawn and any one could hit a 200 lb deer you need to get a life your just making up excuses to make your self feel better. I have coughed and fawns are very un aleart and easy going they can catch you moving and not even think about it. try that with a big doe. If you accidently kill a fawn no big deal but if your going out and killing for what ever your stupid reason please don't come here with your dumb excuses about how challenging it is to shoot fawns the more and more some of you post here the more and more I feel like puking. To txcowboy us dudly do rights are trying to keep slobs and unethical jerks from ruining hunting and giving these anti's crap to feed on. I also suspect that the second deer was shot illeagal being that you are supposed to recover the first before shooting the second and that means tagging the deer and in most states getting it out of the woods or to your truck or camp. Please no more baloney excuses for shooting bambi's if it's an accident fine if you didn't know fine but stop trying to make your self feel better by saying it's more challenging.

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This statement speaks loudly of the mentality that is present.

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This statement speaks loudly and requires no further comment. It is self-explanatory.

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In my time, I too have made mistakes and bad choices. But I did/do not adverstise and celebrate them.

Did not some of you bust out some shooters for shooting a doe that had fawns or early yearlings in tow because your belief was that the young would not survive?

As I have often said, there are the real bowhunters, and then there are the others. Nevertheless, it is a person's right to choose where they stand. I will stay with the real side.



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Quite frankly , I consider myself a &quot;real bowhunter&quot; and wouldn't want you on my side!<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Thats all that need be said.

SJ. you are right it does not say all will die but it does imply that they will most likely die so why not go shoot them. As far as the joke about killing fawns but being more challenging I in no way find killing a fawn fun,hard,challenging or funny. I also think it's important to note that in a state where the buck to doe ratio is close a buck fawn may not hurt but in a state with bad ratio's killing button buck's could have detrimental effect's. I still stick to the fact that just becouse it's in a book or on tv. or even becouse a &quot;biologist&quot; say's doesn't make it right.

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No such law in Illinois or Wisconsin, for what it's worth.

Oh yeah...this one was mighty tastey. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>


Edited by - jrw on 11/11/2002 20:11:02

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