Guys, I took my bow to the shop and had my draw length checked. My bow said 29" on it but it had been changed to 27". So now I know my draw length is 27". I also had a string loop installed. I did not have time to shoot before I left the shop and now I think my nocks are being bound too much by the knots on the loop. Anyone have a suggestion on a fix for this? Also I had the Trophy Ridge Drop Zone installed (served into down cable). My groups at home this evening were pure unadulterated BS! I couldn't even hit my 3d target 3 out of 6 shots. I saw a trend on their flight and adjusted sight accordingly. This helped (could hit target), but arrows are still not grouping at all. Some hit high, some low, some right or left. What does this sound like and where should I start to work this out? Sorry for the long post, but I need help. Please....

Thanks, LT

Well, you've likely got several problems. First, after you installed the rest, did you paper tune? Or even use tools to put it centershot? Go back to the shop when you have some more time and have everything looked at. Check the loop if you think it's wrong. You could try to slide one knot up, but it's tough if not impossible. I am quite certain your equipment isn't tuned properly. Spend some time at the shop and get it fixed.

LTC...Man judging by your other post on the technical forum...you need a new PRO-SHOP!
http://www.huntingnet.com//forum/tm.aspx?m=1482958

The one you're using now just can't seem to get anything right! Search for another one, there are plenty reputable ones out there...anyway, that is where is would begin


Bo

Bo, I don't have another proshop for 80 something miles. I wish I had checked this before I left. I think the guy knows what he's doing, he just doesn't want to go the extra mile. I mean he didn't ask if I wanted to shoot or not, so I ASSUMED he had it set up to paper at least. When I left it there, he said he would have to retune after installing the new stuff. I know this guy has been in business forever and I am sure he would fix if I brought it back. I just think it should have been right when he was done or at least close. I even left one of my arrows with him to tune with.[:'(]

I'm reading nock pinch and fletching contact.

For the nock pinch, just put a nocked arrow on the string between the loop knots and work the arrow up & down, opening up the loops center some. This will sork for a few shots and hopefully long enough for the knots to get tight enough to hold without pinching the nock.

As far as the fletching contact goes, borrow some lipstick from someone (hopefully a female[8D]) and place some on your fletching where it looks like they would hit if they were going to. Shoot the arrow and see if anylipstick is present on the rest. If so altering yourvane orientaion might allow you to clear-Are you shooting cock up?

Your most likely getting some fletching conact which is throwing your arrows for a loop as they launch downrange. Fix the contact(raiseor lower rest if need be-adjusting the drop away timing is the preferred method, but he served you in- so your stuck there), get the centershot right and clear your fletchings and your groups SHOULD look a lot better.

Hope this helps......

Thanks Dave. I didn't wanna hear that about fletch clearance but I had kinda already suspected that. Dangit I new I shoulda been there befor he served it in. I will probably try to lower it some if centershot will allow. Or wait till I can get it back in there to him. The loop seems to be awfully tight. I tried to open the gap by pulling it up or down the string. Wouldn't budge. I don't wanna mess up and loosen that thing and become a dental patient though. I'll try what you suggested with the arrow. Thanks, LT

I really feel for you guys that don't have a good proshop handy. I can't believe all the misinformation that gets put out and all the misfits of equipment to the person. I guess that's why Len gets bows mailed to him from Florida, California and such places to tune or set up.

DaveC is right...except if it were me, I’d go back to that pro shop on a day when I would have all day to hang out and I will not leave them until my set up was shooting bullets...like you said the man knows his stuff...maybe he just needs a little encouragement.....But that is just me


All I’m saying is...just give him a chance to make it right whether he likes it or not[8D]

Bo

If it were me, I'd start by loosening that loop a bit. Keep wiggling and twisting it and you will eventually get the lower knot to slide down a strand or two on the serving it just may take a bit of blood, sweat and tears. The next problem to look at is rest contact. Check all your nocks to see if they're aligned to the cock fletch the same. If they aren't that would explain the scattergun pattern of your groups. Then papertune it. There's nothing we do in a proshop that a guy with even minimal handiman apptitude can't handle, it's not voo-doo. It's just a matter of experience, and this sounds like a perfect opportunity for you to gain some experience.

Once you learn how, the loop is really a piece of cake to tie in, move, etc etc. You really should look at a picture of the knot and practice it a few times. They really don't take rocket sceintist to tie. NOR do they have to be tied in with anything other than themsleves. They won't go anywhere if done correctly and you melt the ends.