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Old 01-20-2006 | 01:03 PM
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Default RE: Speed vs quietness, what's your priority? (Poll added)

Funny question.. Just Tuesday night in League I was shooting next to a guy who was shooting an older model bow. It was like a 22 rifle going off. He was shooting 80 lb draw wieght. I asked him about the noise, he said deer don't have a chance to jump. Whether I believe him or not isn't the issue, his thought process was the interesting part.

I also learned to wait till he shot to draw..that thing'll scare the bejesus outta you!
Here are the numbers, I got them from University of Wisconsin Study.
Shoot 200 fps, deer jumps string. A person would have to shoot over 700 fps to hit the deer. A deer can jump his string.

For target all the speed freaks thing it helps, and it does. If you miss judge a target a little a flatter shooting arrow can help. The opposite is if you jerk a little a faster bow hurts you a little more. Like my uncle, it goes both ways lol
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Old 01-20-2006 | 02:10 PM
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get the best of both worlds.............shoot a BOWTECH!!!
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Old 01-20-2006 | 03:51 PM
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Here are the numbers, I got them from University of Wisconsin Study.
Shoot 200 fps, deer jumps string. A person would have to shoot over 700 fps to hit the deer. A deer can jump his string.
At what distance? At 5 yards, deer's dead. 40 yards...deer's gone regardless. What range was that study for..and what weather conditions. Temp/air quality/humidity play a huge roll in the way sound waves travel thru the air. Wind is also a huge factor..probaby the second biggest factor other than the temp.
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Old 01-20-2006 | 03:57 PM
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I prefer a heavier slower arrow. It gives me better momentum and seems to be more forgiving for me as well. I shoot more accurately with a slower arrow vrs a fast one. However my bowtech is pretty quiet regardless what I shoot out of it. I can shoot heavy arrows at around 200 fps or really light ones with the poundage turned up for around 260 fps or so (which is fast for me) and it is just quiet. Like Arthur said, you can hear the loop come off my release a hair before the arrow hits the target.

I am actually pretty happy with around 230 fps. If I had a bow that would shoot faster I would probably weight my arrows down until I got to that speed and utilize the extra weight. I don't shoot 3-D though. Every thing I shoot is at known distances, even hunting.

I think the key to deer jumping the string is shooting relaxed deer. My buddy has an older bow that is loud and slow and he has no trouble killing deer or having them jump the string out to 30 yards. You just have to pick the shot is all and know when to draw and release.

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Old 01-20-2006 | 04:00 PM
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230 is more than enough to kill a deer...I've shot them going a lot slower than that when I was a kid. I shoot just 40fps more than you..and get pass thru's 90% of the time.

Speed is HIGHLY overrated.
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Old 01-20-2006 | 04:00 PM
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Default RE: Speed vs quietness, what's your priority?

I said speed for a couple of reasons. 1. Todays newer bows are pretty quiet already. Yes, I know a heavier arrow will make them even more so, but I don't shoot featherweight arrows anyway, about 5.8 gpp. So the noise factor isn't as much a concern to me.
2. I would rather have a slightly greater margin of error as pertaining to distance. If I misjudge a couple of yards, I am still in the kill.
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Old 01-20-2006 | 04:08 PM
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I don't get 230 out of my current setup. It's closer to 200-215 I think. I haven't really checked it, that's how much I care about speed. I'm shooting 450 grn arrows with a 26 inch draw length and 53 lbs of draw weight. My bow does have a 324 IBO speed though. I think the fastest I've had it is a bit over 280 fps.

I meant that if I was of average size and speeds in the 260's were fairly easy to get for me I would be happy with the heavier arrow at 230 fps instead. I think my bow shoots around that with 350 grn arrows. I would have to look it up, I know I tried some different weight arrows and recorded the speeds a while ago.

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Old 01-20-2006 | 04:50 PM
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I want the best of both worlds.I have an arrow that weighs 880 grains that is so quietthat i am not even sure that i actually released the arrow[&:].Unfortunately it is so god awfull slow at 125 FPS That i loose 44 pound kenetic energy over my regular setup.This offseason my goal is to find that "happy"medium.
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Old 01-20-2006 | 05:03 PM
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what does it mader if your bow is fast and loud. i seen were deer have dodged arrows but heck if you got a fast arrow it will be a lot harder. quiet does help you get the job done
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Old 01-21-2006 | 09:03 AM
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saying i did this right and my math correct,(which it should be) at a distance of 60ft.(20yds) an arrow traveling at 230fps will reach its target at .2609s, same distance arrow traveling at 260fps .2308s 280fps is.2143 and traveling at 300 is .2s Now take the distance to 30yrds an arrow traveling at 230fps with reach its target is .3913s, 260fps .3462, 280 .3214 and traveling at 300fps it is just .3s so really a faster louder bow will not reach the target much faster than a slow quiet bow, and the quieter bow will have less chance to spook the deer than the louder bow, just my .10
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