Another falls and is in a body cast.
11-26-2005 | 01:58 PM
#31
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RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
Well I am 6'03" and weigh 260. I think that I could be close to a fat bastard. I used to chew a can and a half a day for 10 years but recently gave it up. I drink a 12 pack of beera day on average and could call myself a functioning alcoholic if i had to. I wear my seat belt. I wear my safety belt as well. I can still enjoy all of my bad habits because I wear one. I was saved from 20+ earlier this year and have been able to enjoy everything sinc3e then from my own 2 feet as well as see everyone in my life on Thanksgiving.
I usually don't reply to stuff this ignorant, consider yourself "lucky" I suppose.
I usually don't reply to stuff this ignorant, consider yourself "lucky" I suppose.
11-26-2005 | 02:54 PM
#32
Nontypical Buck
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From: New Stanton PA USA
RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
vc1111, thank`s for the link to that product. I just ordered two of them, and 60m of good rope.
As mentioned several times, it only takes 1 second for something really bad to happen.
After my fall this year, I will NEVER go up or down a tree again without an ascender.....I just thank God that I am still here to make that choice!
BTW, for "The Mind".......this is not a lecture brother, just something to think about............I am in very good health, and can still benchpress the state of Rhode Island, but that did not help me one bit when I fell from less than 7 feet this year.
I literally came very close to dying due to loss of blood. That in itself does not bother me, what does bother me ALOT is what I put my wife through. 700 miles from home getting blood pumped into me as fast as they could get it in me, and hours of reconstructive surgery while my poor wife sat at home scared out of her mind......not a good thing for her to go through!
I was lucky, THIS TIME, I may not get back full range of motion in my arm, but I already have enough motion to get by fairly well.
Being an outfitter, and having hung somewhere around 2000 treestands in my life, I figured I was smart enough to NOT let something like this happen to me....I was wrong, and I ALMOST paid the ultimate price for it.
Nobody is bulletproof...........
Just something to think about when you are going up a tree.
As mentioned several times, it only takes 1 second for something really bad to happen.
After my fall this year, I will NEVER go up or down a tree again without an ascender.....I just thank God that I am still here to make that choice!
BTW, for "The Mind".......this is not a lecture brother, just something to think about............I am in very good health, and can still benchpress the state of Rhode Island, but that did not help me one bit when I fell from less than 7 feet this year.
I literally came very close to dying due to loss of blood. That in itself does not bother me, what does bother me ALOT is what I put my wife through. 700 miles from home getting blood pumped into me as fast as they could get it in me, and hours of reconstructive surgery while my poor wife sat at home scared out of her mind......not a good thing for her to go through!
I was lucky, THIS TIME, I may not get back full range of motion in my arm, but I already have enough motion to get by fairly well.
Being an outfitter, and having hung somewhere around 2000 treestands in my life, I figured I was smart enough to NOT let something like this happen to me....I was wrong, and I ALMOST paid the ultimate price for it.
Nobody is bulletproof...........
Just something to think about when you are going up a tree.
11-26-2005 | 10:52 PM
#35
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From: Gore, VA
RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
ORIGINAL: vc1111
Four the last 4 years I've written threads on this board about using rope and ascenders for fixed positions treestands; I've outlined in detail how it works, how to set it up, where to get the ascender and the rope, etc.
BobCo19 is the only other climber on this board that I've heard of that tried it. As I recall he was one of the board members that was very curious about the ascender threads that I wrote. Good for you, Bob. Spread the word, my friend. You may save a life...or more than one.
Here the facts:
Using an ascender can eliminate 99.9999 percent of the chance of falling from your treestand and being seriously injured. Yes, you can still fall, but the ascender stops your fall no matter where you are in the climb, whether your 3 feet off the ground, half way to the stand platform, climbing into or out of the stand platform, (which is where most fall occur), etc.
Like BobCo10-65, you will wonder how anyone would ever climber without a full body harness and the simple system of using an ascender and a piece of rope to virtually eliminate the risk of serious injury from fixed position treestand hunting.
I use it on all of my fixed position stands ALL the time.
Guys, pay attention to what BobCo19-65 posted after using the ascender system that I've been writing about the past years:
...Then ask yourself this question: What's it worth to virtually eliminate the risk of dying or spending the rest of your life in a wheelchair?
Here's what it looks like. It costs only $35, fits in the palm of your hand, and operates silently. It bites the rope if you fall and stops your fall...but it will easily slide upward and only upwards as you climb. When you go to climb down it has a release that allows you to simply slide it down the rope with you as you climb down...but no matter what, if you happen to fall, it engages, bites the rope and stops your fall.
Here's link where you can actually buy one.
www.mgear.com
Do a simple search for "Ropeman Mark II Ascender" Item #635000
And no folks, I have no interest in the website, nor do I sell the stuff in any way shape or form. It is just that the idea for hunters is so remarkably effective that I cannot help but want to share it.
If anyone needs help, shoot me an email.
Four the last 4 years I've written threads on this board about using rope and ascenders for fixed positions treestands; I've outlined in detail how it works, how to set it up, where to get the ascender and the rope, etc.
BobCo19 is the only other climber on this board that I've heard of that tried it. As I recall he was one of the board members that was very curious about the ascender threads that I wrote. Good for you, Bob. Spread the word, my friend. You may save a life...or more than one.
Here the facts:
Using an ascender can eliminate 99.9999 percent of the chance of falling from your treestand and being seriously injured. Yes, you can still fall, but the ascender stops your fall no matter where you are in the climb, whether your 3 feet off the ground, half way to the stand platform, climbing into or out of the stand platform, (which is where most fall occur), etc.
Like BobCo10-65, you will wonder how anyone would ever climber without a full body harness and the simple system of using an ascender and a piece of rope to virtually eliminate the risk of serious injury from fixed position treestand hunting.
I use it on all of my fixed position stands ALL the time.
Guys, pay attention to what BobCo19-65 posted after using the ascender system that I've been writing about the past years:
With it, I am protected; all the way up the tree, getting into a portable, hunting from the portable, getting out and climbing down". For the extra $60 (you can get them much, much cheaper), and the rope, it is well worth it.
Here's what it looks like. It costs only $35, fits in the palm of your hand, and operates silently. It bites the rope if you fall and stops your fall...but it will easily slide upward and only upwards as you climb. When you go to climb down it has a release that allows you to simply slide it down the rope with you as you climb down...but no matter what, if you happen to fall, it engages, bites the rope and stops your fall.
Here's link where you can actually buy one.
www.mgear.com
Do a simple search for "Ropeman Mark II Ascender" Item #635000
And no folks, I have no interest in the website, nor do I sell the stuff in any way shape or form. It is just that the idea for hunters is so remarkably effective that I cannot help but want to share it.
If anyone needs help, shoot me an email.
I assume if I bought this, I would need the rope to go along with it, but how do I use it effectively? Climb into the tree and secure the rope, and THEN use it from there on out? I'm just not getting how to use it. [&:]
I have a beautiful wife and 3 wonderful kids I would like to come home to after a long day of hunting. If something happened to me, the only person who would know I was out hunting would be my wife, and she wouldn't be concerned until I didn't come home for a long, long time...
Thanks in advance!
Tim
11-27-2005 | 07:06 AM
#36
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RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
ban me for what ? I am not breaking the law by not wearing a safety belt in a tree. As vc1111 I think pointed out most falls are not from the stand but rather climbing into the stand and leaving the stand where a safety belt would have made no difference.
I guess my point is we all live dangerous lives. Not wearing your seat belt in your car (I do) eating poorly, not excercising, letting your body go downhill, driving fast, smoking or drinking too muchand things like that. I don't do any of the above things, many of you do, so it puts things into prespective is all.
Remember I am 100% legal in choosing not to wear a safety harness. I think its great people who do use one. Maybe I will in the future, its a good thing to do.
I guess my point is we all live dangerous lives. Not wearing your seat belt in your car (I do) eating poorly, not excercising, letting your body go downhill, driving fast, smoking or drinking too muchand things like that. I don't do any of the above things, many of you do, so it puts things into prespective is all.
Remember I am 100% legal in choosing not to wear a safety harness. I think its great people who do use one. Maybe I will in the future, its a good thing to do.
11-27-2005 | 07:15 AM
#37
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RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
ORIGINAL: The Mind
ban me for what ?
ban me for what ?
Moderator, please lock this forum? it's going nowhere and has lost focus on the topic.
I am really interested in the mgear product too. Would vc1111 care to start a new thread?
11-27-2005 | 12:09 PM
#38
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RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
Do you really need to ask?
No and no are the answers. You want me to give you some good advice ?
Don't drink
Don't smoke
Don't get fat
Stay in shape
Wear your seat belt
Wear hearing protection when shooting or running a chainsaw
Don't drive recklessly
Wearing your treestand safety belt after driving recklessly to your hunting area without your safety belt, having a hangover from the night before and puffing cancer sticks, struggling to get your fat out of shape body into the stand and wearing your safety belt for safety ?
Doesn't that sound ironic ? And then lecture me for being unsafe ? Are you serious ?
11-27-2005 | 02:06 PM
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RE: Another falls and is in a body cast.
ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY
Isn't it ironic that someone who goes by the handle The Mind could be so stupid. Talk about an oxy moron.
Isn't it ironic that someone who goes by the handle The Mind could be so stupid. Talk about an oxy moron.
Don't worry The Mindless, I am on your side. I am totally against the seatbelt law, the helmet law (over 21,) and high tax rates on alcohol and smokerettes. I beleive that people should have the choice to do what they want to do with their lives.
I think what has most of the people on this board so perplexed is that you are such a advocate of health and saftey, you follow all of the "rules" for a better life, except one; wearing a saftey harness in tree stand on a rainy day with muddy boots. I think I speak for all of us here when I ask why?
If you are so carefull when handling power tools, driving, and what you eat and drink, why did you choose a tree stand saftey harness as the ONE saftey precaution to ignore? Is there something that I am missing? Is there some cosmic formula that states if I follow all of the life advice that you offer that I am 100% guarateed to NEVER fall out of a tree stand?
One would beleive that a person who excersized so much caution in his life would ALSO excersize that caution in the tree stand. One would also beleive that one who excersizes carelesness in a tree stand would also exercise the same carelesness in the rest of his life. If one is something othar than that, they are either a scitsofrenic, or full of $H!t.
I think you are probably the latter with a slight case of the former.
So come on bad boy! Put your money where your mouth is! Post a picture of your bad self so the world can see the perfect specimen of a tree stand climber!