So who wants to hear about the 2006 Bowtech "Tribute" ??
#91
Sounds very interesting, I look forward to seeing the new line! Are you going to Atlanta this year Matt?

See ya there?
#92
Hey Matt, I've been wondering the past couple days... How's this thing going to fit in most bow presses? I've heard rumblings that some of the more extreme parallel limb designs are trouble for the ordinary Apples, so is this new Equalizer gonna take a whole new press?
#93
Nontypical Buck
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From: Goose Creek SC
The owner of The Archery shop where I go to shoot and set around and gab is a Bowtech and Mathews dealer. He has been shooting Mathews bows for over 10 years. This year his hunting bow is a Bowtech Mighty Mite. For next year, only time will tell.
I do know he will be ordering a 2006 60#, 29" draw Bowtech Tomkat with the smooth option for me very soon!
Bill
I do know he will be ordering a 2006 60#, 29" draw Bowtech Tomkat with the smooth option for me very soon!
Bill
#94
Nontypical Buck
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From: Goose Creek SC
Matt,
What is the difference between the smooth and fast option on a given bow? Are they using thebinary cam with a wheel for the smooth version and dual binary cams for the fast version?
Thanks!
Bill
What is the difference between the smooth and fast option on a given bow? Are they using thebinary cam with a wheel for the smooth version and dual binary cams for the fast version?
Thanks!
Bill
#95
ORIGINAL: lamb1647
Matt,
What is the difference between the smooth and fast option on a given bow? Are they using thebinary cam with a wheel for the smooth version and dual binary cams for the fast version?
Thanks!
Bill
Matt,
What is the difference between the smooth and fast option on a given bow? Are they using thebinary cam with a wheel for the smooth version and dual binary cams for the fast version?
Thanks!
Bill
#96
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From: NY
ORIGINAL: Matt / PA
Atlas......remember 302 is the TOP END IBO speed of the advertised range and that's at 60# with a 300gr arrow and the highest draw length setting of 26.5" That's the best possible number shooting at exactly 5grs lb.
Not sure if you are considering all that or not.
In any event it's a rocket for a light draw / short draw length style bow.
Atlas......remember 302 is the TOP END IBO speed of the advertised range and that's at 60# with a 300gr arrow and the highest draw length setting of 26.5" That's the best possible number shooting at exactly 5grs lb.
Not sure if you are considering all that or not.
In any event it's a rocket for a light draw / short draw length style bow.
So are you saying not to expect those kinds of numbers from it??
Doesn't really make sense if it can't put out that speed........if you only end up getting 275-280fps what would be the point?? You can get that out of almost any Bowtech at 27"
Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying.
#97
Atlas, just like past years every model has an advertised "Speed Range" if the bow doesn't shoot within that range then it does not ship.
There's approx an 8fps range so the Equalizer's range at max specs is 294-302fps.
Everyone is latching onto the highest possible number in that range which is 302.
A shipped bow might actually make 302 at 26.5" /60#/ 300gr arrow, but it is also within specs if one ships at 296fps. Most fall around the middle of the advertised speed range, so 298 is realistic for most bows out the door.
So no it's not going to shoot 275-280 at those specs, it will if you trying to shoot say a 375gr arrow rather than a 300gr. Remember 5grs of arrow weight per lb of draw weight to get that 294-302 range.
If you go up in arrow weight, or add additional weight to the string (peep etc) above and beyond what the hush kit, brass nockset and elim. buttons weight your speed will go down accordingly.
A shipped, the max spec Equalizer (26.5"/60#/300gr) will shoot 292 and up to 302 depending upon the individual bow.
There's approx an 8fps range so the Equalizer's range at max specs is 294-302fps.
Everyone is latching onto the highest possible number in that range which is 302.
A shipped bow might actually make 302 at 26.5" /60#/ 300gr arrow, but it is also within specs if one ships at 296fps. Most fall around the middle of the advertised speed range, so 298 is realistic for most bows out the door.
So no it's not going to shoot 275-280 at those specs, it will if you trying to shoot say a 375gr arrow rather than a 300gr. Remember 5grs of arrow weight per lb of draw weight to get that 294-302 range.
If you go up in arrow weight, or add additional weight to the string (peep etc) above and beyond what the hush kit, brass nockset and elim. buttons weight your speed will go down accordingly.
A shipped, the max spec Equalizer (26.5"/60#/300gr) will shoot 292 and up to 302 depending upon the individual bow.
#99
not to nitpick matt, but wouldn't it be depending on the limbs alone?
You'll have variances in every bow however slight.......any bow for any manufacturer. Slight variations in friction, limb deflections (yes actual draw weight accounts for most), etc will cause some minor changes in actual speed. It's not much really as I said most ship in the middle of the range, but occasionally a really hot one goes out so 302 (or maybe more is possible) and few near the bottom end go out as well.
I would expect the majority of the bows in those specs (26.5"/60#) to shoot in the high 290's to 300 with the exception hitting 302.........the 302 is possible but not to be expected on every bow.
To me this is such a better system of rating speed than the vast majority of companies who give you one "Approx" speed rating at 30"/70#/350 and that's taken with a bare string or a very small tied in nock set usually just to hold the arrow in place.
So the consumer winds up with a bow they think might be going say 315fps, but what is that number? The best one they tested? The Average?
The "Unaware" type consumer is also going to wonder where all his speed went when he isn't a 30" draw, or adds a peep a loop and cat whiskers etc. One number at IBO specs doesn't really help the average bowhunter/archer very much.
Bowtech will tell you what each bow will ship at with a full realistic string load and at various draw lengths/weights.
Remember when you see how impressive these speed numbers are with the Bowtech models that they are being compared to the competition's bows shooting with nothing on the string. Bowtech's bare string speed ratings would be off the charts but rather than confuse the shooter, they show what that exact bow is doing with a loaded string at their specs.
It's good stuff.



