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http://www.google.com/search?q=activated+carbon+regeneration&sourcei d=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial


From the first link

8 links down at the Mintek site


All I see are a bunch of links to industrial companies that use the words reactivation and regeneration synonimously.

Remember the threads started by the younger kid that says he has 2 bucks on his land over 200" and one near 300"?? What was the overwhelming response from this board to those threads???

"Prove it"..........lets see some pics.

I don't remember you complaining about people asking for proof in either one of those threads...........why not?? Guess who the only one complaining was??............yup........the guy who couldn't prove what he was saying.

You have to understand that this is the internet............you can find people with oposing viewpoints on any subject in the world. That is why it is important to seperate the opinions from the facts.

You're opinion of scent suits is that they work............that is fine but you have no facts to back that up...........and you ignore all the facts that conflict with your opinion.

I just wish I could find some valuable information on the suits besides someone telling me they shot a deer that was downwind...............I would have no problem plunking down my money for the suits if I could find some answers for the questions I have on how they could possibly do what they say.

Did you see in another thread about carbon.........some guy posted that he believed his suit was still working because he finds black dust in the lint trap of the dryer after he dries it. I wish more people would ask more questions...............an educated consumer demands a quality product market.

Gus, I dont rely on scent lok or any scent minimization soley. I scout, and pattern bucks. The scent tactics are tools that help out in not so perfect conditions or scenarios. Many times in early season, so many deer come out and mill around I am trying to defeat 20 different animals noses, eyes just to get a shot at the big boy that comes out last...

Buckeye,its nice to see thatsome one saw where I was going with mylast post.

Atlas Atlas Atlas...you so disappoint me...first you dodge my questions, then you call my posts names... whats that say about your true character..... just to let you know...my post is about field testing....yes its called FIELD TESTING. Have you ever field tested a scent lok suit? Please dont dodge this ?. Have you ever had a mature buck downwind at 20 yards or less that never knew you where there? Have you ever shot a MATURE BUCK WITH YOUR BOW? please dont dodge this again.... Why would I show you the science...when I already had??? with the DEER and DEER HUNTING ARTICLE??????

Atlas, I knew you would dodge my ? and I am finding outits in yournature to dodge questions and call names.

I did supply the science, you called the EXPERT apay off!

Atlas, the science is here on my desk if you pm me with your home address I will send you the article, for free.

RECAP, I supplied an EXPERTS scientific response to the reactivation versus regeneration. 2nd I offered 7 years of personal field testing in scouting, filming and hunting scenarios. What else do you want.

I am done wasting my time, here, I have 10 days until whitetail season opens and I can promise one thing, I will be hunting smart and backing up what Iknow works........ with a blood trail.


Mobowhunter, I will let ya know what I think of the Xscent ..mine should be here this week. I am interested to see if I get less attention from critters than I already do while down wind with the xscent and scentlok combined...

I hunted with Shed33 for the first time last year. I went out first on a Merriams turkey hunt, (yea nothing to do with scent control) But I will tell you this, Shed has all of the proof I needed hanging on his wall and pictures that he had shown me while I was there. The man KNOWS white tails. I learned more in listening to him in five days than I have reading about them. I then returned in Sept for a first time ever Bow Elk hunt. Shed gave me a scent lock suit as a gift when I arrived. He taught me the right way to control scent. I listened to him intently. I followed it to a T. On the first evening of my hunt I had an Elk bull at 12.5 yards. And the wind was blowing directly at him. Yes I was wearing the scent lock suit he gave me. On the third day of my hunt I had a 6x6 bull at 18 yards (no shot, too thick) and the wind again was blowing towards him because he came in above me instead of straight across the mountain. We also had white tails, mule deer and even a bear in close and personal. I saw more animals and they were closer than I had before. I then brought that knowledge home and had more deer under my stand than I ever had. I tried hunting with out the scent lock suit and with it. there was sa difference, I could see the animals get nervous down wind with out the scent lock. I know not all people can be changed in their thinking, but if you aren't willing to test it for your self then no matter what any of say it won't matter. Heck my opinion is the more people that don't use just means that more bucks will get older and allow me more oppurtunites to harvest them by using all of the advantages of scent control. It was my first year of using the scent control system that Shed taught me and I am sold on it. Once in awhile somebody really does know how things work and have learned from lots of experience and FIELD TESTING so maybe once in awhile we shouldn't be so HARD HEADEDand maybe listen.

It really makes no difference to me to who uses what, where and how. But I do know this...........I just bought a pair of X-Scent socks and now am disappointed I didn't buy the pants and shirt. I am leaving for Colorado on Wednesday and will practice scent deoderization as much as I can under the conditions. But I sure wish I had went ahead and purchased the pants/shirt, at least that would give me added confidence.

How did I dodge your questions?? You posted a bunch of statements and I asked you to prove them............which you still have not done. I am not dodging anything. I am sinply waiting my turn

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then you call my posts names

Well what did you expect??..........I could barely type I was laughing so hard.

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whats that say about your true character

That I base my opinions on facts..........and not folklore.

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just to let you know...my post is about field testing....yes

Then it is meaningless.............just like I said. Let me rephrase that. It is meaningless to prove that scent suits either work or don't. Typing up a list of deer killed and thanking a scent suit makes about as much sense and thanking your bow or your camo. I think every guy on this board can relate to rolling their eyes when they see a guy shoot a nice buck on TV and then thank his cough silencer for allowing him to get close enough to that deer

Just like I told you already..........there are 1,000 stories of big deer killed without using scent suits..........so does that prove they don't work???............by your logic it does.


Yes.........I have had deer downwind of me every season and never have a problem getting winded...........and I don't wear scent suits.........so I obviously don't need one right??

Yes

You showed me nothing..........you typed a bunch of things you said that someone else said. No links, no studies, no nothing. I did a google search on your Dr Schlong and found nothing. I'm not saying what you said is not true............I'm saying I have no way of knowing if it is or not.

You must be joking............you are the one who has STILL not answered any of my questions to prove what you said about carbon. Stories of how you killed a deer a couple years ago don't prove anything that you said about carbon suits or how they work.



Man...........you don't read at all do you? I said I wanted a link to his statements to see what context they were made in. Was it a independent study or was it paid for a carbon suit company to go into a magazine. To my knowledge no company has done a controlled test on scent suits and there abilities to live up to those claims. If you are simply quoting a magazine article............well then we all know how reliable those are


Just give me the link..........If it is a scientific study then I am sure it is on the web. Please don't tell me you are putting all your stock in some old magazine article or op/ed column.


No you didn't.............you said that some guy said something. Here is how silly that is without proof. I talked to a leading scent suit company and the owner told me his suits are full of used shredded baby diapers. Do you believe that?? Why not?? I typed in on the net so it must be true right??


Meaningless..............1,000 other variables go into each of those situations and to say that a scent suit is what gave you that success is about as silly as saying it was your lucky rabbits foot you carry. Did the suits help you?? Just like the 1,000 guys that could post about the 5,000 deer they killed without scent suits.

If you think killing a deer weraing a suit proves they work then killing a deer without one must prove they don't work right??


I'm sure you will................I just don't agree that your suit is the reason for your success. You sound like a dedicated accomplished hunter..........you should give yourself more credit. In my opinion your hard work is the reason for that list...........not the clothes you wear.

I don't think he ever said the suit was the SOLE reason for his success. As I read it, it is a part of his system, a system that works extremely well. He has all the pieces of the puzzle in the right place, and ScentLok is a piece of that puzzle.

LOL....what's a cough silencer have to do with ScentLok? That was a funny analogy...you made me laugh on that one...

Then why post a list of deer killed since he started wearing scent suits............and present it as a validation of how well the product works?? Wouldn't you find it silly if someone said "Product X works so great and this is why"............followed by a list of killed deer?? Don't we all laugh at that every time they do it over a downed buck on those TV shows??.........Ted Nugent is a great hunter with access to great land but I don't put any stock in the statement that he killed that deer on the screen because of what he washes his rock and roll ponytail with

I have no doubt in my mind that shed33 would do just fine for himself in the woods if he wasn't wearing a carbon suit. I think he deserves much more credit for that resume then the clothes on his back.

Hunters have been killing big bucks and deer by the millions for hundreds of years without these suits so I don't understand how or why when someone kills one while wearing one it becomes the reason for his success.

They are both useless products IMO.

I don't know how to post various quotes in one reply, so bear with me. He posted all of his successes and listed one thing he used. Which, happens to be the one we are talking about. I think he would be the first to tell you it is part of a system. It's like a car engine.You can have all of the internal parts, all of the external parts, but without a battery it won't start. The battery is part of the system. No, I wouldn't find it funny if a list of big deer killed was used as a reason why "product X" works so well. If it had a negative impact, I would doubt he would have the list of deer to show us.
Personally, you know I believe it works, and NO, I don't have official scientific documents to show you to back it up. But, I don't think it is the only reason I kill deer. I killed deer without it as well, but my deer sightings and the proximity I am to them has improved greatly. I attribute that to the suit, if that's not good enough evidence for you, I'm sorry.
Bowhunters killed a great many deer before the intoduction of the compound bow too. Hey, even before commercially available broadheads as well. I guess the point is, if you really want to get down to the brass tax of it, all we NEED is a stick and string with a rock on the end of it. I don't choose to do it that way. I choose to use every available advantage at my disposal, just as the early pioneers did. Theirs weren't as "technologically advanced" but I assure you they used every advantage they could find.
I agree, the cough silencer is useless. See, we're not so different after all.