THe only way to know what you want is to shoot both of them.

For what it is worth, I went with the alliegance

I am also considering buying a new bow. When I shot the Switchback, Allegiance and the Patriot, I am having a hard time deciding between them. I actually liked the Patriot a little better than the Allegiance, but the Switchback seem to be a great bow. I will probably go with the Switchback or Patriot.

We sell Bow Tech, Mathews, and McPhearson. Having shoot many bows and set ups I have found that if you are looking for more speed, the bows like the Edge or the Binary cams are a lot faster at shorter draw lengths. If you are shooting any thing over a 28.5" draw it's more of what bow feels good to you. Not that speed is the most important factor, but it helps with the energy level of the arrows.

TALK ABOUT SHORT DRAW LENGHTS MATHEWS MADE IT REAL EASY FOR ME TO DECIDE. SEEING HOW MATHEWS DOESN'T PRODUCE THE SWITCHBACK OR THE OUTBACK IN A 25" DRAW LENGHT. BUT GUESS WHO DOES, I ORDERED THE BOWTECH ALLEGIANCE. SO ADD ANOTHER ARCHER TO THE BOWTECH WAGON!!!!!!!

i just got a switchback and its as smooth as a baby butt.
but im sure there both god bows. the mathews might not be as fast but both should be good

You know you want the Allegiance...what are you waiting for?!

I actually just ordered a new Switchback but was really looking at BowTech as well. Hope I didn't make a mistake. I was very disappointed in the Outback that I purchased last year. I spent more time withthat bowthan any other bow I've owned. I shoot fixed blade heads and could not get any type of consistency out of it.

Has anyone shot fixed blade with the new Switchback? and if so, how is the accuracy?

I am actually moving to 100 grain heads and 5" vanes for the Switchback in hopes that I'll gain some accuracy.

Swampdog-"First off, they cannot flat out lie about the weight of the bows. I believe you when you say it feels a pound heavier. I was just pointing out the fact that they are nearly identical in weight. I'm a Bowtech shooter, so it does not matter to me. I just want other people reading this forum to have accurate information."
I conceded that I should have said FELT. And dont think for a second that this does not matter to you, or you would have not taken the time to point this out. Also, if I am hearing you right, a bow manufacturer can not lie about the weight of their bows? Do they ever lie about IBO speed rating? C'mon. The outback FEELS heavier and I bet it is.End of story.

The thing about Mathews bows that irks me the most is the fact that they, for what ever reason, attach their limb pockets off center of the riser. Because of this they must machine little lips on the bottom side of the pockets to put a band aid on this problem and to provide enough support to keep their limbs square to the riser. Basically it's the same thing as hanging a platform over the ledge of a building. With out a suppot of some kind the platform would simply fall over the edge killing everyone on it.

Their Mathews grip does not compare to the Bowtech grips. At least in my hand the Mathers grip is torquy and the bow tends to naturally point to my right (I'm right handed). Bowtechs grip is a well designed, narrow, and round grip that fits very nicely int he pad of my hand and the bow points perfectly straight for me. I also like having equal length cables and a much shorter string length to minimize tuning problems associated with string and cable strech. Add to this the extra apeed in a very shootable and forgiving bow and the alleginace is the clear winner in my eyes.

Guys, I'm still having a heck of time deciding on what my new bow should be! I have now shot most of the worthy candiates (I feel). I have shot all the Bow Tech models with an axle to axle under 34", the Switchback, Vipertech, Sabretech, Denali, Browning Illusion, Parker Ultra 31. Now the tough part; deciding!
If they were all the same price I'd have a Switchback but when it's $799 locally plus sights, rest, peep, etc.an then you've got $1,200 in bow and that'smore than I'm willing to spend on a bow setup.
So............................ I can get a Hoyt Vipertech for $620 on line, a Sabertech for $499 but then what about service and dealing withmy local Hoyt dealer when he knows I didn't buy my bow there?
The best price vs. service comes from the Bowtech dealer. I'm in the military so they give me a 5% discount from the MAP price. I can get a left handed Defender (this is what my heart tells me to get) for $569 total, a left handed Patriot that someone ordered and stuck the dealer with for the discounted price of $589 total or a Allegiance for $665 out the door.

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I am having one heck of time deciding on what bow to get. The Patriot is probably the best deal (and who doesn't want a killer deal) and being promoted heavily by the dealer (probably to get it off his hands) but withtree stand hunting being my primary purpose for a bow the Defender really appeals to me. I also like the look of the shorter riser of the Defender MUCH better than the long gangly look of the riser on the other two bows.
The Allegiance is hard not to want with all its speed and of course all my buddies say this is the one they'd buy if they were buying a bow it's really getting tough. Who doesn't want to have a bow just a bit faster than their buddies?

I sure would like to hear your opinion.
I have a 28-29" draw.

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