I live in Ontario, Canada. The pro shop Im talking about is about 45 mins fom my house. If I want to go to another bow shop I have to drive like 3 hours along the highway. I don't know why but I am a die hard Hoyt fan. It's not that I don't like other bows but I would like to stick with Hoyt. They have been great so far, so why change right? Allthough,I do want to see if Bowtech can improve on their Commander bow for 08'. If it has some more features and shootsbetter than the Hoytsit may end my Hoyt streak. Another problem that I run in too, is that I am left handed. And shops I have been to in the past (real far away) said that they don't have bows I could shoot because I am left handed. I have never done this before so I don't know how they dod it. Do they just take the bow you are interested in off the shelf and set it up with a rest and loop then let you shoot it. Or do they have bows set a side that are only for people who want to shoot them, like demo models.

I know why you're a die hard Hoyt fan......Because once you've shot the best, there's simply no reason to consider the rest!

I've been thinking about your delima, and I think, if it were me, I would go with the 38 Ultra. It's the more forgiving of the 2, and if I were forced to decide between them w/out getting to shoot them, I believe that's the one I would go with.....That's just me though....

Why would you go with the Ultra over the Pro and over the Vectrix? I would think that the Ultra and the pro would be the same in forgiveness. I was decided between the Pro and the Vectriw because it has the C2 cam which is supposed to be smoother, and have the option of a soft wall.

Yeah, the pro......I had the ultra in my head, that's the one I meant, I just didn't say it....

I've shot them both and I own the Vectrix...I'm just saying if I were in the position you are in, not being able to shoot them before you buy them, the Pro would be the "safe" choice, if that makes sense. You're exactly right on w/ the cams. I guess as far as overall shootability, the Pro has the edge, just because of it's ATA, BH, and the cams....It's IBO is a bit slower, but not much. Man, I don't know how you're going to end up deciding this......I'm glad I don't have to....

Yeah, no kidding. As far as I have seen if it really is a real smooth draw (on the pro), that is still blazing fast. I think I may wait to see the new bows though.

First, if the proshop doesnt allow you to shoot one then I would be leary about buying one from there. Bow reps ALWAYS give the proshops bows for shoppers to try. Honestly, the biggest difference I see between the Hoyt and Matthews is that the Hoyt has a skinny grip vs the thicker grip of the matthews (all in preference). However, if you don t HAVE to have the newest thing the best thing to do is find last years model..you can get one all set up cheaper than just the bow if u were buying new.