real blackpowder obsolete
04-19-2005 | 12:50 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Body in SE WI, mind in U.P.
RE: real blackpowder obsolete
I wonder how people got by with their flintlocks before there were large producers of the stuff along with reliable transportation and chain of supply?
If the world were thrown into utter chaos tomorow, of all of the firearms out there, the flintlock would be the last to go obsolete. Think making blackpowdr is difficult and dangerous? Try making smokeless powder or black powder substitutes.
Most likely reason why shops quit being suppliers of BP (by 'BP' I mean real black powder not pyrodex) is that BP is considered to be an explosive and requires special handling and storage, not to mention the hazmat fees for transporting the stuff.
If the world were thrown into utter chaos tomorow, of all of the firearms out there, the flintlock would be the last to go obsolete. Think making blackpowdr is difficult and dangerous? Try making smokeless powder or black powder substitutes.Most likely reason why shops quit being suppliers of BP (by 'BP' I mean real black powder not pyrodex) is that BP is considered to be an explosive and requires special handling and storage, not to mention the hazmat fees for transporting the stuff.
04-19-2005 | 05:32 AM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: real blackpowder obsolete
ORIGINAL: cayugad
Knowing the formula for black powder and making it is two different things. I had a friend who made some many many foolish years ago. I even helped him a little. He thought he made it right. One spoon full would pop and the next would boom! No consistancy. Plus there is the danger of making it. Many homeowner insurance policys might not take a new hobby like that very well if you were to re-arrange the furniture big time. Lets just hope this is all a nasty rumor with no basis.
Knowing the formula for black powder and making it is two different things. I had a friend who made some many many foolish years ago. I even helped him a little. He thought he made it right. One spoon full would pop and the next would boom! No consistancy. Plus there is the danger of making it. Many homeowner insurance policys might not take a new hobby like that very well if you were to re-arrange the furniture big time. Lets just hope this is all a nasty rumor with no basis.
but the process can also be studied and brought down to where anybody can make useable gunpowder with good consistancy . With quality ingredients and a good manufacturing method a person could become skilled enough with practice and time . I remember reading somewhere that "DIY" gunpowder was often the only kind available to the mountain trappers of the 18th and 19th century . I agree that making it in the basement is probably a very bad idea .
07-10-2005 | 09:59 AM
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Spike
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From: Yorkton Sk Canada
RE: real blackpowder obsolete
the name of the retailer is TNT gunworks in Regina, Saskatchewan. I don't have his phone number handy and he doesn't have an email address or website so I can't give any other information offhand
07-11-2005 | 02:45 PM
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Spike
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RE: real blackpowder obsolete
Backdoor regulatory pressure...
Sellers need a license to sell blackpowder, and are required to keep a powder magazine separate from the structure of their store. You have to log purchases, etc. There is no such regulation for pyrodex. So anyone can sell pyrodex, whereas they have a hard time selling black powder.
The popularity of inlines and percussion over flint has made an impact as well. Only states such as Pennsylvania, that require flintlock and patched ball for their primitive firearms season, are likely to provide a real market for blackpowder.
Dan
Sellers need a license to sell blackpowder, and are required to keep a powder magazine separate from the structure of their store. You have to log purchases, etc. There is no such regulation for pyrodex. So anyone can sell pyrodex, whereas they have a hard time selling black powder.
The popularity of inlines and percussion over flint has made an impact as well. Only states such as Pennsylvania, that require flintlock and patched ball for their primitive firearms season, are likely to provide a real market for blackpowder.
Dan
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