grain for deer and ??beear
07-22-2017, 05:35 PM
#81
Typical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 995
Sadly I have witnessed it doing just that, blowing up. Not the .45cal 300 grain but the .50cal 338plat. The .45cal might actually be a fairly good bullet given it's sectional density. I have no personal experience with it so I can't comment. I have absolutely no personal experience with any of the .45 powerbelts. But I have personally witnessed the poor penetration on live game from several .50 powerbelt models which was my main point. I am in no way arguing the need for testing such as you do. I did say it was a great comparative test. And it will give you a general idea of a bullets performance. But the test you do in no way simulates an impact result on Black Bear. Not even close. And given that was the intent of the original poster, you would think that people with bear hunting experience would be recommending bullets with the best probability of deep penetration and bone crushing damage. Not a weak pure lead conical. My apologies to you ronlaughlin if I gave offense towards you as it was not intended. MountainDevil54 on the other hand, is welcome to be offended all he wants.
07-22-2017, 05:42 PM
#82
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
Posts: 3,732
Powerbelt Failure
Having never purchased a Powerbelt Bullet, nor used one for shooting paper, nor used one hunting, i had/have no preconceived notions about how they do or do not work. One thing seems true; the 300 grain Platinum Powerbelt does penetrate as well as most commonly used; respected bullets. A question then, one might ask, is why the strong bias against Powerbelts?
Here maybe is the answer...........
The 245 grain Powerbelt Hollowpoint blows up on the near side hide, and many many hunters have experienced this failure. The tests using the carpet, plywood, waterjugs had the bullet blow, right now, right away, the instant it hit carpet. The performance of this bullet may be why jillions are biased against Powerbelt Bullets. The way this bullet works on animals is very very similar to what the bullet did on the carpet, plywood, jugs.
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Here maybe is the answer...........
The 245 grain Powerbelt Hollowpoint blows up on the near side hide, and many many hunters have experienced this failure. The tests using the carpet, plywood, waterjugs had the bullet blow, right now, right away, the instant it hit carpet. The performance of this bullet may be why jillions are biased against Powerbelt Bullets. The way this bullet works on animals is very very similar to what the bullet did on the carpet, plywood, jugs.
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07-22-2017, 05:55 PM
#83
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 197
The 245gr powerbelt is what the clerk behind the counter handed my wife when she bought a muzzleloader for me, for Christmas. I push that 245 pb with 100gr of Pyrodex pellets. I shot a doe at around 45yds and never did find her. I've never used a pb since and as long as Barnes keeps making my TEZ's, I never will.
07-22-2017, 06:36 PM
#84
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Boncarbo,Colorado
Posts: 9,186
Bagged more game with powerbelts than I've witnessed in the field? Now didn't you just say a couple of posts back that you haven't downed much game with them? Get your story straight son. And I elk hunt near every year and have for over 30 years. I whitetail hunt in 5 different states every year. So I highly doubt your statement. In fact, your statement is absurd in it's generality. The old man had us in the woods about as soon as we could walk. Just because you dress up in goofy hats and funny looking old shirts from the past doesn't make you some sort of expert boy.
You need an attitude adjustment IMO.
Boy? Thats considered a racist slur.
Last edited by MountainDevil54; 07-22-2017 at 06:44 PM.
07-22-2017, 08:14 PM
#85
Typical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 995
Boy a racist slur? I think my old man used my name a total of 20 times my entire life. The rest was, Boy, get over here. It is only a racial slur when used towards a black male and only then if it was actually intended to be. You need to go back to your democrat friends and get your panties changed. And any time you wish to come adjust my attitude you are more than welcome to come give it a spin boy. My attitude is just fine for dealing with people that attempt to insult my integrity. Especially those that can't keep their stories straight. Killed more game with powerbelts than I've ever seen in the field? Just who do you think you are boy? Granted I'm not as dedicated a hunter as my old man was, hell I don't think anyone ever has been, but I'm no slouch or slob hunter either boy. I'd say I have about 15 years on you fella and all those years were spent in the mountains, woods, fields, streams, and on the firing ranges with the old man. The same can be said for all of my siblings. He cherished the outdoors and our Native American heritage and made damn sure he imparted as much knowledge as he could to each and every one of us. When you insult my integrity boy, you directly insult him. That wont be tolerated at all.
07-24-2017, 07:21 AM
#87
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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07-24-2017, 11:43 AM
#89
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