Took 5 sec to find this.

https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/acces...eech-plug.html

And this one comes with everything but not "nitride" black.

https://www.westernpowders.com/breec...product_id=147

thanks but i already ordered one from cabelas it still hasn't arrived it has no install tool and its not the black matching one for the nitride which is fine i don't care about either issue for now as long as i can shoot this damn gun which is what iv'e been complaining about we don't have very long winters here in arizona so i like to get my testing done in the cool weather. so anyway i did order one but that still wasn't the original point of my thread ! thanks !

Evidently you did find one.

As much as i love my Knights, they don't come with both plug types either and the FPJ plug is marginal with BH209.

thanks i googled for a breech plug and tool a hundred times and that site never came up thanks i'll put that one in my favorites. what are the o rings for ?

We understood the point you were trying to make, but I was trying to get you to see both sides of it.

see i didn't even know you needed a different bp for the knight i know about the different primer types for the knight nut this bp powder issue is all new to me. it's like me doing the electric instal on a job and not supplying the fuses and the people can't turn there power on for a week or two while they figure out where to get the fuses ! just doesn't make sense to me !! thanks !!

haven't you bought anything recently and noticed it doesn't come with everything you need ? it's always an accessory they alway's used to include everything in the past ! and another thing that drives me crazy is it's usually some little five dollar part and the damn shipping is 12.95!! i can't stand paying for all these shipping charges especially when it could have been free ! fyi i understand both sides thanks !

what are the little o rings for ?

Western supplies them for the primer pocket. Not really needed if the head space is set correctly. You can buy a firing pin bushing shim kit for around $5 that is a more permanent solution. O-rings don't last very long but plenty long enough for a average range session or a hunt.