The truth about muzzleloading!!!
12-13-2015, 04:01 PM
#41
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,747
I'm not going to get into a pi$$ing contest here but I love my CVA Accura V2. Its accurate, reliable and good looking to boot. In fact, I've had 3 CVAs - An Optima Pro, Optima V2 (that I sold to my cousin unfired) and my Accura V2. Every one of them was/is more than accurate enough for my purposes. And shot everything I put down the muzzle well until I found the perfect load/projectile combo it really liked. And the price didn't break the wallet either.
If you want to call them junk go ahead and be my guest - it won't bother me any.
If you want to call them junk go ahead and be my guest - it won't bother me any.
Last edited by bronko22000; 12-13-2015 at 04:04 PM.
12-13-2015, 04:11 PM
#43
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,695
Now MD, you of all people should know better than to bring up companies buying designs and slapping their name on it. TC bought ONE design. Period. CVA has YET to have an original design! EVER! Every single one of their rifles and handguns are either reproductions or flat out STOLEN from TC and you know it! They are cheap knockoffs and the company has been sued more times than one can count!
And yes Pete I have not only seen the results of shoddy barrels from CVA but have actually seen a bulge out firing from a NORMAL load. Not even a heavy magnum load but 90gr Goex 2f and a 300 gr connie. Chamber had a 3 inch long and almost half the barrel width bulge and no it wasn't double loaded or anything done wrong. Buddy was shooting right beside me at the range and I saw him load right after a shot. Was a CVA optima if I remember correctly. Of course the company replaced it and as soon as he got the new one in he sold it! So no I am NOT just spouting off BS from Randy Wakeman or any of the other nay BS artists. But I do see many many many many negative reviews of CVA products. Is their BS a thing of the past? Could be but more than likely not. And as far as testing, whoever said TC doesn't test their barrels is full of crap. Every barrel from TC is pressure tested and magnafluxed period! CVA barrels are the ones that skip the testing procedure MD and have been busted for it many times.
And yes Pete I have not only seen the results of shoddy barrels from CVA but have actually seen a bulge out firing from a NORMAL load. Not even a heavy magnum load but 90gr Goex 2f and a 300 gr connie. Chamber had a 3 inch long and almost half the barrel width bulge and no it wasn't double loaded or anything done wrong. Buddy was shooting right beside me at the range and I saw him load right after a shot. Was a CVA optima if I remember correctly. Of course the company replaced it and as soon as he got the new one in he sold it! So no I am NOT just spouting off BS from Randy Wakeman or any of the other nay BS artists. But I do see many many many many negative reviews of CVA products. Is their BS a thing of the past? Could be but more than likely not. And as far as testing, whoever said TC doesn't test their barrels is full of crap. Every barrel from TC is pressure tested and magnafluxed period! CVA barrels are the ones that skip the testing procedure MD and have been busted for it many times.
12-13-2015, 04:55 PM
#44
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Idaho
Posts: 11,703
There has to be a reason that you can get a CVA for $169.00! And it is not all in the fact there is cheap labor in Spain! No-one wonders about the quality of materials?
And really it doesn't matter if you want to buy a CVA - then you should do so.
I personally wonder how many CVA owners would really rather have something else but economics will not let it happen.
I have to admit my first inline ML was a CVA because it was on sale at Wal-Mart at a really good price so I could afford it. I could not afford a White - TC or a Knight at that time.
And yes I believe the quality of the CVA has improved over time - yes improved!
And really it doesn't matter if you want to buy a CVA - then you should do so.
I personally wonder how many CVA owners would really rather have something else but economics will not let it happen.
I have to admit my first inline ML was a CVA because it was on sale at Wal-Mart at a really good price so I could afford it. I could not afford a White - TC or a Knight at that time.
And yes I believe the quality of the CVA has improved over time - yes improved!
12-13-2015, 05:03 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
There has to be a reason that you can get a CVA for $169.00! And it is not all in the fact there is cheap labor in Spain! No-one wonders about the quality of materials?
And really it doesn't matter if you want to buy a CVA - then you should do so.
I personally wonder how many CVA owners would really rather have something else but economics will not let it happen.
I have to admit my first inline ML was a CVA because it was on sale at Wal-Mart at a really good price so I could afford it. I could not afford a White - TC or a Knight at that time.
And yes I believe the quality of the CVA has improved over time - yes improved!
And really it doesn't matter if you want to buy a CVA - then you should do so.
I personally wonder how many CVA owners would really rather have something else but economics will not let it happen.
I have to admit my first inline ML was a CVA because it was on sale at Wal-Mart at a really good price so I could afford it. I could not afford a White - TC or a Knight at that time.
And yes I believe the quality of the CVA has improved over time - yes improved!
Best part of the whole thing is the little word "had" .
12-13-2015, 05:11 PM
#46
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
You could buy a Knight DE last month for $254 shipped.
It's called a sale. Everybody does it.
Most everybody's arguments are weak on CVA's. I'm no CVA fanboy. I just hate to see a product bashed so bad when it's undeserved.
Especially, when it's against the rules here.
Why don't you just shoot the gun you like, and cut out the bashing. You're like a bunch of butt hurt kids.
It's called a sale. Everybody does it.
Most everybody's arguments are weak on CVA's. I'm no CVA fanboy. I just hate to see a product bashed so bad when it's undeserved.
Especially, when it's against the rules here.
Why don't you just shoot the gun you like, and cut out the bashing. You're like a bunch of butt hurt kids.
12-13-2015, 05:51 PM
#47
Spike
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 54
