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Old 08-20-2015 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
I remember Big6x6 talking about the hunt and the fact that the conicals were not doing what they thought they should do. But it was such a long time ago... I think RW was even there and he wrote a piece about it - I do not remember much about it so then again maybe it wasn't RW.
We went about 4 years in a row I think. Yes, RW was there I believe atleast two years.
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Old 08-20-2015 | 08:27 PM
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Shame I can't show a 225lb hog being shot with a .58cal round ball.
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Old 08-20-2015 | 10:20 PM
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I've personally never had any problems with the big connies or even the little fellers I shoot out of my .45 LC (Keith style SWC's) but I use a fairly hard alloy (Tin and tiny bit of anti in the mix) to make them. I've used them out of .50's for years and flat out hammered hogs weighing in excess of 250, a few Elk, and a few Moose. I don't think one ever got up and complained to me "how dare I use an old style bullet in this day and age".

Now granted I have been away from ML'ers for a couple of years paying more attention to my archery and that is more what is capturing my interest in the new designs of all these bullets out there nowadays for ML'ers. But I can't take away anything from the big, slow, plow faced meplat connies. There is an art form to mixing lead up for them big boolits. Just a tad too soft and you get poor penetration and a tad too hard and you get a pencil through. The boolit Art made for this particular test looks like it might have been just about right. Some here seem to believe that the innards of a deer or elk is as hard as the water in these jugs. News flash, it aint! Fluid dynamics is a bit hard to wrap ones head around because people want to see water as a soft target. It just doesn't work like that. At speed of impact, water becomes a VERY hard surface. Take a fall while water skiing at over 40MPH and you will see exactly how hard water actually is. Internal organs and blood itself has a LOT of elasticity which lends itself to being a softer malleable surface than water to strike at speed.

The performance I see from this bullet here tells me it would blow through a 200 pound hog out to 100 yards and pretty much wreck it internally. I've used about every conceivable bullet type, broadhead type, firearm type, hell even spears and knives (in my younger, more stupid days), in the many years I have been hogging. That bullet right there would be a LETHAL bullet to pretty much ANY North American big game animal.
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Old 08-20-2015 | 10:50 PM
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i did some water tubing with an ex girl friend once. At 25mph it felt like your arm was going to be ripped off when you feel off the tube. Not fun in any way.

Still a great bullet regardless of what has been said about "poor" penetration.

I have an old vhs of roger raglin shooting his white and a huge slug on a bison. One shot and as hes reloading, the buffalo tips over dead " Some times it just takes a little longer for them to realize they are dead" is something along the lines that roger says in a voice over.

Now lets test the bullet that got JFK. We'll solve this magic bullet yet.
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Old 08-21-2015 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by super_hunt54
I'm betting 80 grains BH with that 500 grainer made you see some stars for a second or 2.

I think also rather than a wad, those sub bases would be of a particular use with these boolits. May want to give them a try with them in the future. If you don't have any Ron and want to give a couple a try just yell and Ill send you a few.
Thank you. However, there is no future; don't have many left. Recoil isn't bad at all, but is more than the lighter bullets.
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Old 08-21-2015 | 05:59 AM
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Flounder that bullet looks like it performed excellent! Do you know the hardness?

I wouldn't hesitate to use one of those on anything I'd ever hunt. I've shot some heavy conicals with heavier powder loads a few times over the years... even though Ron said it wasn't that bad, I'd bet that 80gr of BH with that bullet was a teeth rattler! Or maybe he's just tougher than me
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Old 08-21-2015 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WV Hunter
Flounder that bullet looks like it performed excellent! Do you know the hardness?
I do not have any kind of hardness tester except my fingernail. They are quite soft, I mix some stick on wheel weight ingots in with pure lead ingots at about 1 to 4. So....not very scientific but it works for me.
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Old 08-21-2015 | 07:17 AM
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LOL, not very scientific but that is actually a fairly good mix. The newer stick on wheel weights have a medium to high hardness value to them. It's according to what part of the country they originated from.
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Old 08-24-2015 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by flounder33
.....Did you find primer removal easier on these lighter conicals and after you cleaned out your flash channel?
This morning went up, and shot the 500g boolit again. Used a different breech plug. The plug used today was modified to use a vent liner. The plug used today has a longer flame channel than the plug used the first time. Thus with a longer flame channel, and a larger diameter flame channel, this plug has a larger volume flame channel. My anticipation was the larger volume would absorb pressure, and so the primers wouldn't feel the same pressure today, they did the other day.













After each shot the primer fell out of the plug. Quite a difference from the other day, when a plier was required to pull the primers from that plug. Today, the primers didn't leak through, and there is no evidence of too much pressure.






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Old 08-24-2015 | 11:57 AM
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Thanks for checking that out Ron. Looks like a non issue.
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