i did some water tubing with an ex girl friend once. At 25mph it felt like your arm was going to be ripped off when you feel off the tube. Not fun in any way.

Still a great bullet regardless of what has been said about "poor" penetration.

I have an old vhs of roger raglin shooting his white and a huge slug on a bison. One shot and as hes reloading, the buffalo tips over dead " Some times it just takes a little longer for them to realize they are dead" is something along the lines that roger says in a voice over.

Now lets test the bullet that got JFK. We'll solve this magic bullet yet.