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Old 08-04-2015 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
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Now its pretty obvious we've got some fellow here's here that WANT to start trouble and be a bunch of loud mouths about something they only know about because what they've read LOL.
Learn to read and comprehend and you'll see where I never made specific negative comment toward the product or told anyone it mustn't be used. That should be loud enough for you, expert.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 07:59 AM
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I wasn't pointing at you friend.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:04 AM
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I wasn't pointing at you friend.
Humble ist apologies to you!
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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Game Stalker
Learn to read and comprehend and you'll see where I never made specific negative comment toward the product or told anyone it mustn't be used. That should be loud enough for you, expert.
Not true. You started this thread with information you don't know is true. You also argued it's true through the whole thread. You see yourself as someone delivering some new news, and you have to protect everyone from buying a CVA gun.

The truth is Randy is full of crap, and is paid to be full of crap. Everybody can see that, but you. You've insulted everyone who didn't agree with you with your condescending attitude. I use what I quoted as an example.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:33 AM
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I read that article with interest in so much as I own a CVA Accura V2 and had previously owned an Optima Pro. Both rifles were and are very accurate. Do I use "Magnum" loads - No. Will I ever? Probably not. No need.
But the article takes me back to my 35+ years in quality control. First if they say that inspect 1 out of every 25 barrels, that is a a pretty weak sample size. Even a moderate sample would be 8.
Because of this will I stop using my CVA Accura? - NO
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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
Now now boys, lets not bring this knit picking topic back up, every gun maker has had a recall, including knight. I'd worry about about the 7.5 million remingtons recalled for faulty triggers.

This old CVA Hawken was made back in the 1980's, the barrel probably around the same time. Well over 2,200 shots through her and never once have I run across a safety issue with ANY muzzle loader I've shot. This rifle has actually shot more powder than todays normal inline magnum loads.


Now its pretty obvious we've got some fellow here's here that WANT to start trouble and be a bunch of loud mouths about something they only know about because what they've read LOL.

When it comes to shooting CVA I believe I have a huge gain in knowledge in that department. I shot the living hell out of them before I built up my Hawken and got bitten by that bug. 5,000 shots through 3 of them in year is pretty good and I doubt I'll do that again.
Im using a 32" deer creek barrel with 1:66 twist in .58 caliber shooting patched round balls.
I think you just kind of outed your point there MountainDevil... That Hawken you are displaying and saying so many rounds have been fired through at high pressure isn't a CVA barrel!
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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter
Not true. You started this thread with information you don't know is true.
Let me help you again, Muley. I wasn't talking about what Randy was saying. I was referring to the fact that I didn't make derogatory statements toward the product or the members that use them. Randy means no more to me than you do. I didn't hear know the mans name till yesterday and maybe I'll agree w/you as time goes on. But for now, you didn't refute. You're just as much a basher as you claim him to be.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:41 AM
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The truth is Randy is full of crap, and is paid to be full of crap
So are many other people whether its from sponsoring forums with money or just being supplied free samples and rifles for review work. Opinions from sponsored sources and individuals should always be suspect and considered bias until proven otherwise.

One of these people is portraying T/C in a negative manner at every chance. More than likely because T/C would never send him a free rifle for review. Another turned on Knight after not getting his free Mountaineer for review. This same person would not review CVAs several years ago until and i quote...."When they get on board".

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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Game Stalker
Let me help you again, Muley. I wasn't talking about what Randy was saying. I was referring to the fact that I didn't make derogatory statements toward the product or the members that use them. Randy means no more to me than you do. I didn't hear know the mans name till yesterday and maybe I'll agree w/you as time goes on. But for now, you didn't refute. You're just as much a basher as you claim him to be.
Not true again. By posting the link you're agreeing with it. I'd never post it, because i know it's trash. By defending it through the thread you're giving it credibility.

You sent me a PM at he beginning of this to warn me about CVA guns. I don't fault you for that, but it did show you believed Randy, and wanted to warn everyone. Why else would you post it? If you didn't believe it. Why would you post it? Nobody does that. So, the bottom line is you did believe it, and posted it as a warning. That is bashing CVA.

I'm sure that's obvious to everybody.
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Old 08-04-2015 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gm54-120
So are many other people whether its from sponsoring forums with money or just being supplied free samples and rifles for review work. Opinions from sponsored sources and individuals should always be suspect and considered bias until proven otherwise.

One of these people is portraying T/C in a negative manner at every chance. More than likely because T/C would never send him a free rifle for review. Another turned on Knight after not getting his free Mountaineer for review. This same person would not review CVAs several years ago until and i quote...."When they get on board".
That doesn't make Randy innocent just because others do it. It's like saying a bank robber isn't guilty, because lots of guys rob banks.
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