Where did i say he was innocent? Please show me where i said that.

I said ALL these types of reviews should be suspect. Not just the ones you dislike.

I can see this thread as becoming "The never ending story." A continuation of he said, she said. Of I believe, and I know. What is good for one is not always the same with others. And I appreciate that someone believes they are looking out for my well being by posting information, no matter how old or how recent it is. But the point of all this is, some believe it, some don't. Some are concerned enough to not purchase CVA products, while other ignore the same concerns.

It all comes down to a matter of choices. We make choices every day. Some good. Some not so good. Its clear some consider the CVA as an abomination of steel and composite. Others, quite the opposite. Its all a matter of choice. So I thank all for warning me of the dangers of my purchase and use of a CVA. I use and care for my rifle in a responsible manner and so far have suffered no ill effects. In fact quite the opposite. But as of this post, I will be ignoring the rest of the thread. It is giving me a headache.

GM........You should have left it at your quote. I would have said nothing. I didn't see the point of the rest of it unless you just wanted to bash others.

So, I wasn't sure what your motive was.

You have never worked in the auto industry. Sampling 1-3 parts per shift is typical. And 1 shift produces several hundred parts.

Pedersoli proofs every barrel according to them. One look at Italian proof laws make it appear to be true.


http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/storia.asp?l=en

You know what's unknown? What if Beraga checked every barrel? Would it change anything? Would all the barrels pass?

The popular opinion seems to be if they checked every barrel they would have failures, but nobody knows that. It's just an assumption.

You haven't disproved any of it. He's in a position to know more than we do. You can't be told anything and you have a vendetta.

Ive had several friends in germany have CVA rifles shipped to them. They go through the proof house, something like a 3 month extra wait, once they pass, they are able to pick up their muzzys. CVA's biggest market is in the US. If they found it profitable to sell large quantities in europe, they would. They actually offer the apex and bergara rifles with wood stocks in europe. We get plastic camo.

No muzzleloading company checks all barrels, including TC and Knight. Knight uses what.. magnaflux to check so many barrels per run. That means, not every barrel gets checked.

No company wants to clean those barrels out.

Randy your good buddy has many articles over at Chuck Hawks.
One of those articles contains a clarification stating Dudley as saying proof marks were taken from barrels back in 2006. It sure is ethical of a company to make such lies to deceive the buying public. It's better that a barrel fail before leaving the factory before failing in some ones hands.