Hmmmm,,, No links or anything showing what the cat. failure actually was? In the CVA report there were all kinds of actual proof and documentation. I have several TC barrels and not a single one of them, including the muzzleloader, has ever shown the slightest hint of poor craftsmanship or quality. Now granted all of them are pre S&W takeover but it seems so is this complaint.

After a little research I found out some things about that little thing you just put up there Pete. He joined up on SEVERAL sites posting this thing you put up. He neglected to put up the link which actually had DETAILS. Those details were that the Stock broke and the scope hit him in the eye!!! Here is a picture of the offending rifle.




Could anyone please show me a cat. failure that has a dang thing to do with "headspace" as Brian tried to say that was the reason? ANyone that is a real shooter knows that with TC's you may have to shim a little here and there to get proper headspace. It's the nature of the beast. There is absolutely NO way you can have interchangeable barrels with different cartridges and calibers and have dead on headspacing! They get it as close as possible from a manufacturing standpoint and SAFETY.

Pete, you also failed to put in that Brian was found to be 40% liable as well!

Yes, I did miss that. Big difference between complaint and personal injury lawsuit. I'll confirm. Did you miss the part where I mentioned reputation? TC, has a good one. No need to look further. The evidence is clear. You just can't admit it. Randy obviously haunts you.

Super, if TC has major problems, it wouldn't be hidden. The sporting arms public would see to it word got out. Just like the negatives in the other case.

Yep, it's pretty dang hard to hide those things in an AMERICAN BASED company. Far to many restrictions and safety guidelines as well as Lawyers to get away with it here. Pete, CVA is by far NOT American Based. It hasn't been since they went bankrupt and BPI bought them out. In actuality, CVA never was truly American since all their ML'ers were made in Italy. They were basically an Import dealer.

Bergara just makes the barrels. I'm not sure where the guns are assembled. Maybe in Spain too. Maybe they just target the US for the VA guns. We have 4 million ML hunters here. Plus, those who buy them to just plink. That's a pretty big market. Do they ML hunt in Spain? I don't really know. if they don't sell the guns in Spain, I don't think it's because they can't.

Super, this thread was posted merely to give information for those that might find it beneficial. 2 people shared that they were thankful for the info. I believe you were one of them. I really don't care what people use so long as they have knowledge of potential safety issues. It may be old news to some, but I suspect a great # of shooters might not be aware. If anyone took offense where none was intended: Too Bad!

That still puts TC as 60% at fault. There were other cases with similar problems of headspace. TC themselves admitted the gun having problems. Where I found that post the docs were shown in PDF.
All i'm saying is these things go on all the time, but you don't hear about them unless someone like Randy starts to post them.

Is there anybody on here that personally knows of a CVA blowing up? There's a lot of reasons a gun can blow up. It's rare that the gun is at fault. When it is the guns fault the company does something about it. Just like CVA recalled all the guns that had the problem. How many recalls do car manufactures have. Some that are dangerous. Remember Remingtons trigger problem? People were killed if I remember right. Does that make all Remington guns junk?

You guys are just rat packing an easy target brought on by a shifty investigator.

It goes much deeper than that. You listen to Randy likes it's the gospel. He's paid to slander CVA. He loves it when someone like you comes along, and posts it up again. Money in his pocket.

I was in the waiting room at St. Francis hospital in Cranbery pa talking to a guy about his friend who was getting attention from being a victim of a CVA muzzleloader. I'm almost positive I put a thread up about it many years ago. Either on huntamerica or modern muzzleloader. I wonder what ever happened to that poor guy??

Wake up and see reality, Pete. Randy is no one special to me. You've drank the Dudley Kool-Aid obviously. You were given a chance to prove that information was wrong. You couldn't do it. Instead, you post 1 ridiculous lawsuit claim that Super exposed as questionable in facts. It's not just Randy, either, as you already know. Face it: You're wrong and you have nothing but a pointless argument. You really should try to be more useful.