The comment was improper. You can't kid no one but yourself. Told you that guy haunts you.

Well I'd like to think I have more than 2 brain cells no matter the wife says! :s2: And the fact of the matter is, that article did provide a very solid PROOF base. It provided documentation, not just some people's beliefs but actual proof, and a very solid argument about how these barrels aren't proofed in any way. It's enough for me to never buy a product produced by any of the companies. Of course there are guys with CVA's that have never had a problem. But I for one would not like to be the "lucky lotto" winner that gets the one that will go BOOM in my face.

You'd be surprised if you knew what he meant. PM's are good.

Nobody has proved a Bergara barrel blew up due to a faulty barrel. I'm be willing to bet all the cases were owner error, and of course they'll lie about it to collect money. CVA pays off to keep off the negative publicity. It doesn't mean they're guilty.

Has anybody tested the Bergara barrel with proper loads, and blew it up? Proper loads meaning not more than 150gr of BP, or subs, and not more than 120gr of BH 209 which is a magnum load.

I read a lot of threads, I try not to do much posting. I am a relative newcomer to blackpowder, most folks that post here have decades of experience with it. I am glad to see Mountain Devil back! He once sent a scope mount to me for only the postage and a loose powder breech plug too. His sudden disappearance caused me to wonder if he had health issues, maybe a parole violation,etc. I am glad to hear that he just took some time off and is doing well. Just kidding about the parole violation thing. Welcome back MD, and thanks again for your generosity.

Lee had his Bergara barrel tested and confirmed its weaker then the competition. Lehigh Defense and I had tested several CVA breech plugs and confirmed they are soft and weak. Weak breech plugs and weak barrels aren't a good combination at all.

For those who want to defend CVA, why not just supply facts and or links that can be contacted and proven other wise?? The facts are just so much easier. Like Rons bullets testing, pretty cut and dry😉. Well some don't understand that either but will worry about that later.

Works both ways. How can you prove a barrel doesn't blow up with a proper load if it never blows up?

Lots of guys shoot nothing but mag loads, and have no problem.

Saying the BP and barrel are weak doesn't really prove anything if you can't get them to fail.

If we were in court right now, and you had to prove the barrels blow up. How would you do it?

I believe this post is getting worn out. It has turned into an arguing language Edited by JWcontest now. Time for it to get deleted I think.

Nobody is forced to read it.

Sorry, but i'll defend CVA as long as I believe it's a good gun.

I agree that it is time to end this thread when people start ignoring the fact that a safety factor of 100% prevents a lot of accidents and injury its time to change the subject.