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Muley Hunter 08-03-2015 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by ronlaughlin (Post 4210350)
Tom, his name is Tom.

I know his name, but he sounds like Randy.

Muley Hunter 08-03-2015 09:50 AM

If you have concerns about CVA guns. Read this, and if you haven't guessed after reading it. The Private investigator is Randy Wakeman.


http://www.cva.com/the-truth-about-c...zleloaders.php

cayugad 08-03-2015 10:06 AM

I have read the Wakeman report. Very interesting stuff. Old stuff mind you. But interesting. So pardon me if I don't read it again.

As for the new CVA rifles. I own an Optima. I shoot the Optima and found it accurate, easy to clean, easy to take apart, and a real pleasure to shoot. So the question is, do I fear for my safety shooting it. If I did, I wouldn't shoot it. If you do, don't shoot it. Its that simple.

Triple Se7en 08-03-2015 10:44 AM

I would love to own one of those new CVA Accura V2's in 45-cal and a used, good condition CVA Mountain Rifle in 54-cal.

WV Hunter 08-03-2015 10:51 AM

Where is 1874's avatar when we need it? :D

Game Stalker 08-03-2015 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by cayugad (Post 4210360)
I have read the Wakeman report. Very interesting stuff. Old stuff mind you. But interesting. So pardon me if I don't read it again.

As for the new CVA rifles. I own an Optima. I shoot the Optima and found it accurate, easy to clean, easy to take apart, and a real pleasure to shoot. So the question is, do I fear for my safety shooting it. If I did, I wouldn't shoot it. If you do, don't shoot it. Its that simple.

Your last statement pretty well sums it up, for any weapon. Some of the linked information is as current as last year. My guess is that the newer models are probably better. The question still remains: Are the guns still safe w/a max charge. Not just short term.

That Dudley seems like a smoke and mirrors kind of guy, based on his rebuttals.If the evidence against CVA were fraudulent, they would demand a court case for improperly targeting their company and causing loss of revenue. If they aren't doing so, what is CVA afraid of? While I no longer own a CVA product, putting information out there so owners and buyers can make informed choices is what needs to be considered.

Game Stalker 08-03-2015 11:48 AM

P.S.- I hope the guy that stole it didn't load it up w/a 150 gr. charge and receive delayed justice.

Muley Hunter 08-03-2015 11:55 AM

Anybody loading to 150gr isn't looking for accuracy.

You want smoke and mirrors. Listen to Randy. He gets paid to produce them.

Don't be naive enough to believe that CVA is the only gun company to settle out of court. You hear about CVA from Randy. Do you read about it anywhere else? If you do they got the info from Randy.

You're just part of the witch hunt.

Game Stalker 08-03-2015 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Muley Hunter (Post 4210396)
........ Do you read about it anywhere else? If you do they got the info from Randy.

You're just part of the witch hunt.

Do you take issue w/owners and customers having knowledge and the right to choose, either way?
Again, if Randy is the investigator, surely CVA could target him for some type of trade violation, if the statements weren't true. Consider that.

Muley Hunter 08-03-2015 12:15 PM

Oh please! Should CVA lose potential customers from exaggerated lies?

This is normal. Every once in a while someone brings this up again. It doesn't affect those who know what's going on. Of course the Knight bigots will jump on it again. They're just upset CVA out sells every other company.

As do Powerbelts. :p


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