On your review of the New Knight Disc Elite,you stated that the Knight shot sub zero groups,with the 405 grain Power Belt' s,and no Barrel swabing through a 100 shot' s.What Powder or Pellets were you using,and the charge weight? Sincere Thank' s!

I hope I said sub-1" groups at 100 yards-- that was with both 348 gr. and 405 gr. Powerbelts and a pair of Triple 7 pellets.

It did better than that with 220 gr. Dead Centers, shooting consistent 1/2" groups with T7 pellets or 90 grains T7 loose, with a few 1/4" groups here and there. The gun is far, far more accurate than I am-- and is not just the most accurate Knight I' ve ever tested, but the most accurate out-of-the box muzzleloader I' ve ever shot.

Thank' s Randy.Ill be getting a Elite within the next several week' s,and needed a good place to start my accuracy testing.Ill only have limited time to get it shooting groups this year,due to work requirments,but next year,ill have all the time in the world,to see how nice she Tweak' s. Do you have a Link to Cecil Ebps Bullet' s ? Many Thank' s!

Also,how well do Hornady Sabot' s work in the Elite,if you know?

Cecil' s site is at http://www.prbullet.com.

I' m not sure if you mean the XTP or the newer SST' s?

The Hornady XTP 240 pistol bullet is a proven deer-getter, but the Hornadys I' ve tried are much harder to load than the Dead Centers. They shoot " okay" on the Knight, but nothing spectacular.

The pure lead Dead Centers are more consistent in grain weight, easier to load, and have higher ballistic coefficients than the Hornadys-- and most everything else.

In general (very generally speaking)-- I' ve had the best results with pure lead-- meaning the heavier Powerbelt conicals (348 or 405 gr.), the heavier Buffalo SSB' s ((375 and 435), and the Dead Centers-- with the Dead Center 220 / 240 and .44 caliber 300 being the pick of the litter.

The two bull caribou taken 2 weeks ago were with 220 gr. Dead Centers, the Russian boar shot last Saturday was taken with the 300 gr. Dead Center.

Thank' s A Lot Randy!

Randy I have been shooting 240 XTPs for years and yes they have worked wonderful on game, accuracy is decent as you mentioned. Anyway to my question I have some 44/260 gr dead centers, I noticed you mentioned the 220/240/300 version. Just curious did you not try these or found them to be less accurate??? I am going to head to the range tomorrow to give them a go after work. I have just switched to a 209 primer setup and am tinkering with 777 Pellets (2 - 50' s). I am working on a load for whitetails and mulies, FYI.

Thanks for your response.

For caribou, I wanted the flattest shooting load I could come up with-- and the 220' s were it. You lose the high BC of the .40 cal DC' s by going to the .44/260, and no-- I' ve not tested them.

For boar, I wanted more bullet weight, and was less focused on max. point blank range-- so I went with the 300 / .44. I' ve not tested all the Dead Centers-- when I started doing so I was running them though 10 different muzzleloaders, and with other brands of bullets to test as well-- just could not do them all.

Thanks for your response. I hope they preform, but it is always fun just tinkering so whats a few bucks, my 240 XTP' s still perform well so no biggie if I have to stick with them for now.