BLACKPOWDER HELP!!!!
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 360
BLACKPOWDER HELP!!!!
Sup guys, I have somewhat of a dilemma. My grandfather has disliked the idea of blackpowder hunting for a while but once I pointed out the advantages to him he seemed to like the idea, so he is looking to buy a rifle, He asked me to help him search for a good gun because he doesnt know much about it. My question is is what are some good guns that arent too expensive ( possibly 300-400' s) if there are none for this range than please point out others. He needs a scope too.
THANKS IN ADVANCE!
-hotgunner
THANKS IN ADVANCE!
-hotgunner
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 3,092
RE: BLACKPOWDER HELP!!!!
A number of honest reviews are posted at http://www.chuckhawks.com/index2d.rifles.htm and specific recommendations are made in this article http://www.chuckhawks.com/recommended_muzzleloaders.htm
There are a few I would add to that list depending on the spending level. If he must use a scope, you should certainly take ease of scope mounting into consideration. The 320 Austin & Halleck can be had right in that price range (see D&R Sports at http://64.224.40.78/miva/merchant.mv ).
There are a few I would add to that list depending on the spending level. If he must use a scope, you should certainly take ease of scope mounting into consideration. The 320 Austin & Halleck can be had right in that price range (see D&R Sports at http://64.224.40.78/miva/merchant.mv ).
#3
RE: BLACKPOWDER HELP!!!!
I am guessing that in-lines are all right. You did not mention any restrictions on the type of muzzleloader needed. Seeing the range you mentioned, there are some nice Knight in-line rifles on sale right now. A .50 caliber Wolverine I believe was going for around $199.00. Add a scope to that and the necessary stuff to get shooting and you would be around the $300.00+ range. There are other less expensive loaders that would do you just fine, but I alway felt that you should buy the most gun you can afford. A Knight rifle is really a good shooter according to other board authors. I personally do not own one. Others on this board I am sure will suggest some others. They can also tell you sights where different ones can be looked at and purchased. In the mean time, start reading some of the back postings, and also start looking at the different rifles out there. You will have a lot of choices and decisions to make other then... looking for a good gun. What ever you decide, I am sure your Grandfather and you will have a lot of fun with this sport.
#4
RE: BLACKPOWDER HELP!!!!
Hotgunner 21 ,
check out the Traditions line , they make a nice ml for very little . I own 3 of them , 2 were $150 in inline . They also make a fine line of repro sidelocks that I' m sure your grandfather would love . [8D]
check out the Traditions line , they make a nice ml for very little . I own 3 of them , 2 were $150 in inline . They also make a fine line of repro sidelocks that I' m sure your grandfather would love . [8D]
#5
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: stuart, iowa,usa
Posts: 280
RE: BLACKPOWDER HELP!!!!
if he has been against muzzleloaders in the past, then i bet he won' t want a side hammer. get him something that takes a 209 primer ignition. you can' t go wrong with a knight, they are the best
#6
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Springville Utah
Posts: 24
RE: BLACKPOWDER HELP!!!!
For the price you listed any ML in that range would be a great gun. Any of hte Knights and TCs would be a great choice.
I really prefer the traditional route, so my experiance with in-lines is very limited, but I decided to give the in-line craze a try a few years ago but couldn' t give up my love for pre-1900 guns. I came across the Cabelas Rolling block muzzleloader. This gun is made by Pedersoli, and is basically modelled after the old Remington breech loading rolling block, but Pedersoli added a breech plug. The action is still a rolling block, but you load it from the front, and drop a 209 primer on the rear. It' s tapped for a scope, if you so desire. I know this gun isn' t for everyone, but I' ve been very happy with mine. It is easily my most accurate, least load picky ML I have.
Just wanted to give you one more option.
I really prefer the traditional route, so my experiance with in-lines is very limited, but I decided to give the in-line craze a try a few years ago but couldn' t give up my love for pre-1900 guns. I came across the Cabelas Rolling block muzzleloader. This gun is made by Pedersoli, and is basically modelled after the old Remington breech loading rolling block, but Pedersoli added a breech plug. The action is still a rolling block, but you load it from the front, and drop a 209 primer on the rear. It' s tapped for a scope, if you so desire. I know this gun isn' t for everyone, but I' ve been very happy with mine. It is easily my most accurate, least load picky ML I have.
Just wanted to give you one more option.
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,922
RE: BLACKPOWDER HELP!!!!
" how about the TC Omega? is it good?"
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Here' s how I rate the top inlines
1) Knight Disc Elite
2) T/C Encore
3) Austin & Halleck 420
4) White M-98 45
5) T/C Omega
6) Savage ML10-II
7) Knight Disc Extreme
Any one of these would be a really nice choice. Just my opinion...
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Here' s how I rate the top inlines
1) Knight Disc Elite
2) T/C Encore
3) Austin & Halleck 420
4) White M-98 45
5) T/C Omega
6) Savage ML10-II
7) Knight Disc Extreme
Any one of these would be a really nice choice. Just my opinion...