Your point?

200yds is My Max with a Mler, it does'nt have the Velocity as a Rifle at Long Distances, too much can go wrong at 150+yds let alone 300. I have actually watched as My Sabot struck the Deer I was aiming at, at 80 yds, you would'nt see that with a Rifle Bullet.
If you want a Scope with a DBC try the Leupold Ultimate Slam MLer Scope, it has settings for a 2 Pellet (100) Grains of Powder with a 250gr Bullet, a setting for a Shot Gun, and a setting for a Mag Load of 3 Pellets, 150grs with a 250gr Sabot. You just zero in with your set up and the Scope will do the rest. Now I know most dont shoot either 100grs of Pyro with a 250gr Sabot or a 150grs of Pyro with a 250gr Sabot or will use this scope on a shotgun. Reguardless of what you use, and even if you use any of these Loads for your Mler, you'll still need to check the marks to your hits on the Target with the BDC. The Leupold Ultimate Slam has settings for yardages out to 300yds.
Now here's what I found out about the BDC, You Dont Need It. Who has time to break out a Rangfinder to see how far the Deer is so you know what line on the BDC to hold on, it's nice for Target Practice so you'll now exactly where to hold but for real life Hunting Situations when you only have seconds to make the shot it's not what I prefer, even though I do have this scope on My MLer, I quit using the BDC.
I sight in My MLer at 2" at 50 yds, if I hold on a Deers Heart at 20 to 50 yds Im on, anything further out to say 175yds I just hold dead center lungs and Im good.
I can actually hold dead center lungs from 0-175yds and be in the kill with no problem with 2" at 50yds, but the Close shots will be a tad high in the lungs but still do the job. If you can remember to hold in the Heart Area at Close shots and to hold in the center of the lungs as longer distances, the 2" high at 50yd sight in works great for most MLer Loads and Shots. This way I only have to remember to just hpld dead center lungs for all my shots and Im in there.
(BP)

300 yds NO,There are people regularly taking deer at 250 yds though.

Myself, i use a muzzle loader for the rifle in our rifle seasons.

That's nice. Your point?

I cant speak for Ron but I also use only a MLer for Rifle Season also. I find No Need to use a Rifle, a MLer will get out there and do the Job Nicely to where I need to be. I myself feel a Rifle is Cheating a little, when you can drop a Deer at 500++yds and have them not have a clue, then it just seems a little (Easy) to me. I know you First have to See the Deer and get them in your sights, that's the Hardest part, but if I cant get close enough to put one down with a MLer then Im not doing My Part as a Woodsman.
Now befor anyone Jumps all over Me about saying a Rifle is Unfair, I live in the Country, but there's not many places we can get shots out that far, most of our Shots are 100yds and under, with a longer 125-175yd shot being a exception. I know in other Parts of the Country (Big Open Country) a Rifle is needed where you need to take them Long Shots, Im Perfectly Fine with that. But even in that situation as much as I love to use a MLer I'd still use it there.
I guess it all boils down to self satisfaction for me, I just feel better inside knowing I did it with a MLer.
(BP)

Good grief! Now a rifle is cheating in rifle season.

How about a scoped inline shooting CF primers, smokeless powder (BH), and CF pistol bullets in a sabot during ML season. A gun that can clearly kill to 250yds. Some of them to 400yds.

How does that compare to someone shooting a flintlock with a PBR?


For the record. Not that I should have to explain how I hunt, but I will. I can't take the recoil of a ML anymore. My shoulder is too torn up, and it's gotten worse since shooting muzzleloaders.

My CF gun is an 8 1/2 lb .270. I had a muzzle brake and Limbsaver pad installed. It has the recoil of less than a .243. My shoulder has a lot less pain shooting it.

I'm a still hunter. I don't take long shots. I didn't go to a CF, because I want to take long shots. My last elk was at 70 yds. I used a PRB in a real muzzleloader.

Cheating my arse!