Now your getting close. The difference is the Lehigh will do the same thing every time. The lead conical anything could happen.

here's a good read by Doc
http://whitemuzzleloading.com/myweb2...d_a_killer.htm g

Here is a video of a 300g Nosler Partition traveling at 1850fps

The Nosler was found in the phone books about 5/8" deep.

Correct Ron because the Nosler retains more weight, but IMO it does not do the damage internally or cause the same degree of 'Shock' to the animal as does the Lehigh when harvesting animals vs jugs. Plus remember I am/was a certified Nosler fan and shooter, until I started using Lehigh's...

I don't believe speed is always the answer. You have to weigh all the factors. That is why there are so many different centerfire chamberings. The 220 Swift - probably the fastest cartridge ever developed is absoulutely no good for dangerous game up close. And hence, a 458 Win Mag is not the best choice for pronghorn antelope at 400 yds.
I feel its the same with MLs. I would not hesitate to use a 180gr .40 cal saboted bullet out of an accurate 45 cal ML for deer out to 200 - 250 yds. But if I were face to face with a big bear at close quarters, I'd want a min 50 cal with a big hunk of lead coming out of the muzzle.

Ron,
Do you still have the Barnes .458 Socom video? Heavy yet pretty fast.

bronko22000

Point - counter-point - think you cleared that one up just fine... It really does matter what you might be hunting + the possible effect of the external forces acting on the bullet in flight...

In our ML season i am required to shoot a full bore lead conical, so I shoot a .503-460 grain Bull Shop with 90 grains of T7. That gives me a velocity of 1500-1550 fps for a 460 grain bullet!!!. That thing is a freight train and hits just as hard.. At a 100 the 460 carries 1608 FPE and a 300 grain Lehigh brings 1591 FPE with it, and at 200 yard the Bull Shop has 1220 FPE of energy left while the 300 grain Lehigh at 200 yards has 1105 FPE left - but the Lehigh gets there a whole lot faster in both cases...

Exactly!!! Why do you think there are many different ML barrels with different twist. I don't know if there is one cal one bullet one powder for all game animals. Most of us have different ML for different types of hunting. For me my inline is the all weather/long distance shooting and all game animals. My .54 1:70twist is 100 yards or less deer/elk. My .54 flintlock I dont know yet, but probably under 100 yards and deer only. My .54 LRH is going to be my BIG BAD GUN. Shooting a 500 grain bullet out its going to be elk/bear and the yardage I dont know yet. The same goes with my centerfire rifles. Different cals equal different game and distance.

300g Socom at about 1850 fps Never could find this bullet; don't know where it went.