No matter how you want to look at it, speed kills.

Not really. Only 400 fps more for half the weight is not enough.

Look at the video. That's a .223. A .22! It was going twice the speed, and was much more effective.

Your exactly right, Ron shot the 200grn SST at 1800fps. That's really anemic for that light of bullet. A 50cal ML will get that going 22 to 2300 pretty easy.

Omega45

1800 fps for a 40-200 SST is like shooting a 22 short when you could be shooting a LR or even a 22 mag.

It is really easy to reach 2200 fps with a 40-200 - you would need to look at a ballistic table to really see the difference and there is a huge difference.

Not saying it would not work @ 1800fps but very few would shoot that bullet at 1800 fps.

Speed kills but I wouldn't want to be in front of a 538 gr .451 conical traveling at a slow 1200-1400 fps either.I'm as concerned with energy as I am with speed.

I totally agree with your statement about heavy bullets and the enrgy they carry when traveling slow... But slow really does concern me these days. It is my feeling animals have a lot better understanding about people that are hunting than they use to... I want the speed (velocity) to get the bullet on target as fast as it can get there and yet have sufficient energy to do the job.

How long does it take a scittish (I do not think that is a word - but you all understand) anyway how far can a nervous animal move in a split second and what was a great shot becomes a very bad shot.... that concerns me...

I agree, I have this result also. Blackhorn is a progressive burning powder this means that the higher the pressure the faster it burns. I believe that at sea level [the elevation makes a difference in how fast the pressure builds because it starts at a different pressure] it takes 135 Gr's of Blackhorn to reach the efficient burning level of pressure with a 200gr bullet. I can not argue with Sabot-loaders results because at about 5,000 feet and with out going to excessive loads they are accurate. I also believe that is why a constant burning fast burning powder like 777 gives him the best results and it is also part of the reason he has no problem with crudring, but since I do most of my shooting at lower levels I will continue to use Blackhorn.

Here is a video of a 300g Lehigh brass bullet traveling at 1855fps

Here is a video of the 440g conical traveling at 1450fps


As written before, the concical was found in the phone books about 2" deep. The brass bullet was also found in the phone books with it's tail still visible.

ronlaughlin

That is exactly why I shoot that bullet at 1950-60 fps

I know what you mean, but since I bowhunt a lot when I go from 300fps with my bow to 1400 fps with a big conical I feel like I have something traveling super fast. When I shoot a dead center sabot 40/45 260 gr at 2200 fps then i guess my conical seems slow. I do try to make an effort for perfect shot placement whether its an arrow at 300 or a bullet at 1400-2300.