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sabotloader 04-25-2011 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by flounder33 (Post 3802198)
With a hundred yard shot the difference would be between 2 and 3 hundredths of a second. Offhand I have a hard time believing it would be a significant factor.
Art

I said a split second :s1:.... it can make a difference and it will be multiplied as the range increases... A 6" move can be lot.

Granted it would not happen often but in my case it would when I was drawn down on a nice big bull... I know it is mostly in my mind but that why I try to eliminate as many possibilites as I can... That how I justify using an expensive bullets, a great rifle, and really good scope...

Just so you know...

460 gr. Bull Shop 100 yrds .2196 seconds 200 yrds .4771 seconds

300 gr. Lehigh 100 yrds. .1777 seconds 200 yrds. .3807

200 gr. Lehigh 100 .1535 200 .3367

flounder33 04-25-2011 10:01 AM

I was taught to respect my elders but......
Like you Pete, I want a quick humane kill and I also like to have what I consider the best equipment to do it. Just a difference of opinion on this particular subject.

Muley Hunter 04-25-2011 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by flounder33 (Post 3802212)
I was taught to respect my elders but......
Like you Pete, I want a quick humane kill and I also like to have what I consider the best equipment to do it. Just a difference of opinion on this particular subject.

Absolutely. My first priority in picking a load is for a humane kill within the distance i'll take the shot.

sabotloader 04-25-2011 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by flounder33 (Post 3802212)
I was taught to respect my elders but......
Like you Pete, I want a quick humane kill and I also like to have what I consider the best equipment to do it. Just a difference of opinion on this particular subject.

Yep, but not much of a difference... Of course you know that Doc White would totally agree with you.

flounder33 04-25-2011 11:52 AM

And also, after giving this a lot of thought lately, I just sold the last muzzleloader I own that was built for your type of high speed performance, so I don't want y'all to be telling me how wrong I am.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

sabotloader 04-25-2011 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by flounder33 (Post 3802242)
And also, after giving this a lot of thought lately, I just sold the last muzzleloader I own that was built for your type of high speed performance, so I don't want y'all to be telling me how wrong I am.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

When you put that DISC up for sale, my very first thoughts were the guy is nutz :bash:... But then I decided no not really he is just looking into the future and positioning himself to be ready to git one of the new ones...:fighting0007:

I just hope this aint you a few weeks down the road... :s7:

mike

Grouse45 04-25-2011 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by flounder33 (Post 3802197)
You are going to have an extremely difficult time convincing me of that.

It's not a matter of convincing, it's reality.

Grouse45 04-25-2011 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by flounder33 (Post 3802212)
I want a quick humane kill and I also like to have what I consider the best equipment to do it.

That should be everyones philosophy. Not sure what your equipment is, but the attitude is good.

flounder33 04-25-2011 01:38 PM

Tom,
My equipment is:
My White rifles ranging from a Super Safari in .451 to a Bison in .540 with a couple .504s in between and quite possibly another .451 coming soon.
Then I have my Knight rifles, all early mk-85s and built back when quality was job one at Knight.
Topped off with a Lyman GPR in .54.
Every one of these guns is very accurate and has a bore as good as new and there isn't an animal in North America that I would be lacking in equipment to hunt.
I have owned a couple of disc rifles and they were both very nice to look at and accurate as can be but after shooting the conicals exclusively for a couple years I just don't feel like shooting saboted bullets any more. It just doesn't trip my trigger so to speak. Just a personal thing I guess.
As far as reality goes, your reality is different from mine. I respect yours, You otta respect mine.
Art

flounder33 04-25-2011 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by sabotloader (Post 3802262)
When you put that DISC up for sale, my very first thoughts were the guy is nutz :bash:... But then I decided no not really he is just looking into the future and positioning himself to be ready to git one of the new ones...:fighting0007:


I just hope this aint you a few weeks down the road... :s7:

mike

I'll have to admit, I would like to shoulder one of them someday. :s1:
No, I have to many fun guns to shoot to be shedding any tears.
Is your Mountaneer on the way to Idaho?
Art


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