Mountaineer prototype has arrived.
#51
Fork Horn
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 196
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"All i wanted to know is what parts knight built on their rifles, i wasnt trying to talk down on them for anything."
Based on your hundreds of posts on a couple forums, you can't blame anyone for suspecting your motives.
Now that your question has been answered...twice, how many parts does CVA build on their rifles? Fair question, isn't it?
Based on your hundreds of posts on a couple forums, you can't blame anyone for suspecting your motives.
Now that your question has been answered...twice, how many parts does CVA build on their rifles? Fair question, isn't it?
#52
Lets see if i understand this. Knight makes very little in house but chose some of the best companies to makes the parts for them. Then Knight assembles those high quality American made parts in house in the USA with American labor.
The end result is nearly a 100% Made in USA muzzleloader from parts that are extremely good quality even though they could have outsourced to companies with much less quality control and saved some money.
These new guns cost roughly $100 more MSRP than many imports for an $559 Extreme (as an example) with a laminate stock. Most imports don't even offer a laminate stock or FULLY adjustable triggers which will easily make up the difference in cost. I will gladly pay an extra $100-150 to keep skilled American laborers working.
The end result is nearly a 100% Made in USA muzzleloader from parts that are extremely good quality even though they could have outsourced to companies with much less quality control and saved some money.
These new guns cost roughly $100 more MSRP than many imports for an $559 Extreme (as an example) with a laminate stock. Most imports don't even offer a laminate stock or FULLY adjustable triggers which will easily make up the difference in cost. I will gladly pay an extra $100-150 to keep skilled American laborers working.
Last edited by Gm54-120; 04-16-2011 at 07:35 AM.
#54
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,496
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From: Yucca Valley,Ca
"All i wanted to know is what parts knight built on their rifles, i wasnt trying to talk down on them for anything."
Based on your hundreds of posts on a couple forums, you can't blame anyone for suspecting your motives.
Now that your question has been answered...twice, how many parts does CVA build on their rifles? Fair question, isn't it?
Based on your hundreds of posts on a couple forums, you can't blame anyone for suspecting your motives.
Now that your question has been answered...twice, how many parts does CVA build on their rifles? Fair question, isn't it?
#56
GM 54-120 thats my point. I would rather give my money to Clydes sport shop than a big box store. I realize Clydes cost more but it keeps the money in the US. But having said that theres a point when a better quality item is available the seller must realize consumer cost comes into play. CVA($349) Knight(550) which one would most buy on a tight budget? It seems to me Knight is going after the upper middle class(just like the fed tax laws). I hope they make it in todays economy.
#57
Typical Buck
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 598
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From: MD/PA Line
GM 54-120 thats my point. I would rather give my money to Clydes sport shop than a big box store. I realize Clydes cost more but it keeps the money in the US. But having said that theres a point when a better quality item is available the seller must realize consumer cost comes into play. CVA($349) Knight(550) which one would most buy on a tight budget? It seems to me Knight is going after the upper middle class(just like the fed tax laws). I hope they make it in todays economy.
#58
jaybez101099
I don't think they are trying to compete with CVA atm, They are competing with T/C and at a very attractive price. T/Cs newest edition is $550 and its not even stainless or laminate. You dont see many top of the line T/Cs getting blown out at clearance prices but i see it every year on imports. Accura V1s lost half of their value in one year vs a $450 MSRP. Even the Accura 45 i bought was nearly $400 and i will never buy one again at more than half MSRP pricing.
Im comparing MSRP to MSRP, Its pretty obvious CVA has a hard time selling their "top of the lines" at MSRP.
I don't think they are trying to compete with CVA atm, They are competing with T/C and at a very attractive price. T/Cs newest edition is $550 and its not even stainless or laminate. You dont see many top of the line T/Cs getting blown out at clearance prices but i see it every year on imports. Accura V1s lost half of their value in one year vs a $450 MSRP. Even the Accura 45 i bought was nearly $400 and i will never buy one again at more than half MSRP pricing.
Im comparing MSRP to MSRP, Its pretty obvious CVA has a hard time selling their "top of the lines" at MSRP.
Last edited by Gm54-120; 04-16-2011 at 10:02 AM.


