Remember the question was which bullet might be more humane and effect out to 200 yard on an elk... so quit arranging things to your advantage.... At 200 yards i believe the 300 grain bullet would more effective for a quick and humane harvest.

Also, is it possible that further development might change both the powder amount and the size of bullet that you can use. Remember also in this law suit happy world companies must protect themselves as did CVA with thier restrictions, Hogdon still recommends only two pellets and etc.... things change...

No it was pretty cheap stuff and I tried to give it away at different places - nobody would take it...

I just hope this new stuff does not end up in the same place...

I guess the extreme primer flow in my old Accura and Rons pics were only my imagination and the primer flow in my other guns wasn't nearly as bad with the same hi end loads. I wonder how my GMB54 can use 120gr of BH209 without any issues using a 385gr bullet in a sabot or a huge Parker conical. And 110gr or more shoots several bullets much better than it does with just 100grs in a 20" barrel?

Its sabot load data starts at 325gr bullets and 100gr charges?

I guess its a CVA thing and i wouldn't understand. LOL You know, kinda like a "Jeep thing".

I wonder why none of my current guns impose such restrictions and appear to shoot near max or max loads better. I wonder why BPI no longer uses extruded barrels and even changed their firing pin bushing slot size.

I really don't care what a CEO shoots since he has no concerns over a warranty issue but when i got an email in roughly 2004 i was told exceeding the recommendations could void any warranty if it resulted in damage.

Like ive said before, have him come on here and tell everyone its ok to exceed the loose limits in the manual and it wont effect the lifetime warranty.

It seems the only thing blowing out of an orifice unburnt isn't from a barrel and it isn't powder.

There might be something to the Bore Coat, but I think MD coats his barrels and gets the ring. I don't know what the answer is. I'll be honest and say i'd rather use T7 than BH. I not only get the crud ring, but it locks in my breech plug too. Even with lots of anti seize. With BH I don't even lube the BP and it come right out.

The Omega BP is so reliable with BH that it's hard not to use it. Other than price. It's hard for me to get away from BH 209 and Thors. I wish they were cheaper, or I was richer.

WOW 112 replys........Only a few weeks since hunting season ended...you can tell the natives are getting bored already. Turkey season in a few weeks

(Cough)Now now on the jeep thing.. Ray

Speaking of Jeeps. I've been a 4wheeler for 40 years. Here's mine.

sabotloader

As you know im giving T7 another shot too after the recommended changes to my storing and cleaning products/procedures. I probably hate the ring as much as anyone and gave away all of my T7 until buying one more bottle a month or two ago.

I now firmly believe RemOil (Teflon) was part of the problem and also that i didn't get it all out before shooting in my WinApex. Its gone now though so i cant make a good comparison in that gun.

The new bottle of T7 is still sitting sealed until im ready to see if those changes have made a difference in my newer guns. The BB did make a difference in the old Thunderhawk after years of use. I hate the stuff too but it must have done something after years of use. Now ive gotten the new owner to use MX and your swabbing mix.

Boom.... problem solved in that gun even with 209 primers. Its a dirty beast but almost no crud ring. Im not sure if its was the MX or the years of using BB. Since i wont use BB anymore, i can only rely on my MX tests i will try soon. I will give BoreCoat a try someday too if needed.

Nice jeep MH. i own a 92 cherokee.. Ray

It gets me into elk country, but it doesn't carry much.

I shoot an Omega - it is a great gun have had it since 2002. I do shoot T7 in it also with great results. I use to have problems with breech plugs and T7 also until Underclocked invented teflon tape... since I switched to tape and not grease no problem... and reading your mind yep! with BH you do not need either... that is really nice.

Same here... and I am some what in the same situation. I shoot Lehighs because they work and I trust them, they are costly but in my mind in my situation they are worth every penney, but in the back of my mind I know the Deep Curls would really work almost as well, my beliefs will not let me say 'as well'

That is one dang good looking Jeep - I like Blue!!!!

Just remember that MD has an agenda and T7 does not fit in that agenda...