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I do not like to get down in the gutter with people. But sometimes it is just necessary to speak your mind and let the chips fall where they may.
Mountain Devil accused me of being a thief on this forum. He said someone with the name HOGGHEAD stole $1200 from the members of this forum. I use the name HOGGHEAD on most all the other forums I am a member on. I could not use it here because it was already taken. And Mountain Devil-or should I say Frontier Gander knows that. However being the snake in the grass he is, he accused me of being the thief because I called him on some of his normal BS where he always knocks Knight rifles because he has skin in the game with CVA. Instead of disputing the facts I presented in the two threads on the PA forum. I am not sure how some of you other guys would react, but I do not like being called a thief. He would not address the real issues on the PA forum that I accused him of. But he brought up this dribble about me being the thief on this forum. He is a despicable person. And I mean that. If you deal with him then beware. He will lie and say anything. Mountain Devil you are a shameful person. SHAMEFUL!! Tom. |
You would be surprised how many people support that kind of behavior on this forum. It's a shame but true.
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You use the name HOGGHEAD on Huntingpa?
Pretty amazing you would choose that EXACT Name and how it typed considering how huntingnets biggest rip off chose that name to hide behind after he got banned. We all remember what indiana spokepole. Must be one heck of a popular name! ![]() ![]() |
Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3763089)
You use the name HOGGHEAD on Huntingpa?
Pretty amazing you would choose that EXACT Name and how it typed considering how huntingnets biggest rip off chose that name to hide behind after he got banned. We all remember what indiana spokepole. Must be one heck of a popular name! ![]() ![]() I am glad you posted that here. You really do show your ignorance, and that you are a snake in the grass. You may shout down a few people. But sir you do not scare me. The people on this forum know who you are and what you are. And I am sure they know that what you posted is not me. How would they have ever let me back on this forum if it had been me?? And if any moderator wants to ask me for any proof I will gladly give any moderator any information they would like to have in order to prove to them that it is not me. Nice try again. You really are a despicable person. Tom. |
so can you explain why you'd that that EXACT name for huntingnet? Is it just a common name?
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He has his own website. Apparently the crickets are so loud over there he spends more time on Huntingnet, ModernMuzzleloader, and just about any other site.
Shame his folks don't make him get a job. |
Originally Posted by Urban_Redneck
(Post 3763098)
He has his own website. Apparently the crickets are so loud over there he spends more time on Huntingnet, ModernMuzzleloader, and just about any other site.
Shame his folks don't make him get a job. |
Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3763093)
so can you explain why you'd that that EXACT name for huntingnet? Is it just a common name?
I don't need to prove anything. I do hope a moderator looks at this. And I am sure a moderator would have some way of checking computer's, then he would know it was not me. And how would they have ever let me back on if I had stole $1200?? Nice try to divert the attention of your dribble. Unfortunalty I do not think it is going to work for you. So go ahead and accuse me of whatever you want. Heck I might have been the unseen shooter on the hilll at the JFK shooting in Dalls?? You should also accuse me of that. Heck keep on accusing. I don't care. That still does not discount the fact that you are a shameful person who is also a snake in the grass!! Tom. |
LOL listen to all these excuses you are coming up with the change the subject.
BUSTED! I never would have known hogghead was you if you hadnt of made this. How do you explain the SAME name EXACT same way its typed then? |
Why should he explain anything to you?
As usual, you post an accuasation without a lick of proof and then try to laugh it off. Next step is you will just quit posting and run away rather then admit you may wrong. 20 something going on 5. |
maybe you dont remember what Hogghead -ISP did to saxman.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...un-raffle.html http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...delivered.html |
You are barking up the wrong tree MD. It is true that the infamous ron goldman alias "Indiana Smokepole" used the name HOGGHEAD on here but it is not the same person as HEAD001. For one thing HEAD001 has been a member here since 2006. For another thing ron goldman had certain peculiarities to his grammar that are not exhibited by HEAD001.
You owe him and the every member on here a big apology jon. Art |
just pure coincidence then? I wont buy into it so i darn sure will be watchin now
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Innocent until proven guilty should apply here. By the way, HOGGHEAD is a common name that the miners around here call each other, so that doesn't prove anything.
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If I remember back correctly. Frontier G was a young kid who used to post here. Kids are kids I guess.
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I for one can and do believe that MD/FG would and does do whatever he has to when he is caught in one of his lies and has no way out. he does indeed have a horrible web site dedicated to his pet brands and self serving projects.the site appears to be set up for one reason,advertising sales and nothing else, since his opions and those of others on the the sit are clearly bias. he spends "more" time on other sites pushing the same dribble and products.anyone who has been on his site to take a look can clearly see of what i speak.to be completely honest he is anti american and pro CVA,powerbelts ( BPI/CVA) product. some of the things i have seen him say regarding american rifles and people who use them are disturbing to say the least.how and why he has become a moderator on other sites is beyond my comprehension.he hides behind his computer and says things, that in real life situations could be potentially harmful to his well being " IE" a trip to the wood shed to learn some manners.i hope the individuals that run this great site consider banning him form using it! Ray
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more proof, he ran directly to another forum to start crap because all his buddies are over here.
Another deal he said, He just logged into modernmozzleloader with the name hogghead and made a post. Interesting as i did a search on MM and that name isnt even in the system since ISP used it and got banned. Builder, you really do have the hots for me and my forum dont you. Got to remember, you powerbelt bashers forced me to making my forum so the powerbelt community had a friendly place t o hang out out and get help with. Not my fault it took off to more than i expected. |
Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3763122)
I wont buy into it so i darn sure will be watchin now
Still haven't posted a shred of proof - typical. |
MountainDevil54
His name on MM was Lungbuster 1 and Indiana Smokepole, had nothing to do with hogghead |
he used the name HOGGHEAD as well SL.
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Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3763206)
he used the name HOGGHEAD as well SL.
The only memtion of hogghead in the archives is your recent post. The old hogghead name on MM is registered to another individual in West Virgina and the IP's are not even close. His other name was conicalman |
i did a search on MM on the name and nothing came up.
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Jon, I remember when lungbuster, aka Indiana Smokepole, aka Conicalman tried to make a comeback on this site under the name HOGGHEAD. If you would read the posts it was easy to see that it was the same man as these other people. But for you to insist that HEAD001 is that person is just wrong. Actually it is libel. Just because someone disagrees with you on matters of muzzleloading that is no reason to falsely accuse them.
The actions of Indiana Smokepole and his aliases were a dark chapter in the muzzleloading forums. Do not use them to falsely accuse this man. Art |
Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3763215)
i did a search on MM on the name and nothing came up.
I think you may be wrongfully accusing some one that does not deserve it. LB1-indiana smokepole- Ron Goldman is not Head001. If you look up Ron Goldman you can even look at his house in Indiana on Goodle maps. Head001, Tom, when you look look up his address puts him in a completely different state... |
Looks like we might have found a case for James Garner A.K.A Jim Rockford:)
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Art, since i have the ability to do it on MM - I did look up the HOGGHEAD name. The information tied to that name is not even close to the information that I tracked for Ron Goldman. I even went into it so deep that I filed a postal fraud document with the government. Using his address in southern Indiana. I just ran the information on HOGGHEAD from MM tracked back to a different IP address - Ran the registers name and the adress does come back to WV. Some one mentioned the name (hogghead) has something to do with the mining industry and is fairly common. It really does seem that the accuser be KNOW and have positive proof of what he is talking about before you accusing someone of something. Going by hearsay and unproven facts can get one in troubled. But then again when this accuser needs defelct other statements it is easy to respond back with inflamatory information. He has done it on more than one occasion. |
A while back MountainDevil54 accuse me of sending him a breech plug that wouldn't thread into his rifle. Then he wrote that the primer pocket was too loose, because the primer had soot all over it, when he fired his rifle using the breech plug that couldn't be threaded into his barrel. I tried and tried to get him to understand that the plug was actually a little tighter than an OEM plug, but he never seemed to get the drift.
Today, it seems he is again spreading false information, and again he appears to be trying to tarnish a forum member reputation. Hopefully, he will admit he was incorrect about HEAD0001, and perhaps even an apology. To this day, all these weeks later, he has never written a word indicating, he falsely described the breech plug he received from me. Some days, when i am feeling the aches and pains of my age, i think about how it was when i was younger, and had a younger body without all these failing parts. I also remember what it was like to be brash, and loud, and quick to judge. Twenty years ago, our son was MountainDevil54' age, and he was a hand full too. So stubborn, and sure of himself; full of testosterone. We managed to weather those times with our son; hopefully this lad on our forum will learn to be a little more careful, before he again, writes something that isn't accurate. |
Originally Posted by ronlaughlin
(Post 3763274)
A while back MountainDevil54 accuse me of sending him a breech plug that wouldn't thread into his rifle. Then he wrote that the primer pocket was too loose, because the primer had soot all over it, when he fired his rifle using the breech plug that couldn't be threaded into his barrel. I tried and tried to get him to understand that the plug was actually a little tighter than an OEM plug, but he never seemed to get the drift.
Even though you did tighten up the headspace a bit, it wasnt no where near enough to seal off the blow by from the primer. My firing pin bushing is backed out .016" A LOT more than what you adjusted your plug for. That angers me Ron that you still carry on with this. I know you said you dont mind it being dirty, but you sure did shim up your V2 and back the firing pin bushing out .020" !! |
Mountaindevil54, I have really, really tried and give you the benefit of the doubt over time, and have gone on the hope that someday you will grow up, but this example is really over the line. I was one of the most angry at Indiana smokepole and even was instramental at getting him banned from another site (as conicalman). However, to spread unsubtantiated accusations while producing no "proof" except a common name is just juvenile. Names on the internet are a dime a dozen and if you haven't figured that one out, I really feel sorry for you.
The sad thing is, little by little you are shooting yourself in the foot. More and more people will be turned off by your antics and you will end up without the goals you seek in the world or muzzleloading. Adults admit their mistakes and apologize. I have been wrong and apologized too many times to count. I could be wrong, but I don't think I have ever seen such a post from you. And if you keep this kind of thing up, you will be the one being banned off more and more websites. Then what? I am probably one of the few that actually feel you might have something to contribute, but you are too busy always being right about everything for me to even listen to what you have to say any more. To be honest, I wish all websites had the "block" option, because I am to the point that I would choose that in your case. Sorry it has come to that, but that is the reality of where we are. JMO. |
txhunter58, you can block out folks here. Go to your account and look on the left side of the page it has a "edit blocked people"
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Sorry bad info. It is the "edit ignore list" in your control panel.
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I see this as a serious offense against an innocent man.
MountainDevil54 called HEAD0001 a thief and a con man on this public forum. I've been a member of Huntingnet.com since 2003. While I've witnessed some heated disagreements, this is way beyond the pale. I hope the owners of Huntingnet take notice and action before their good name gets dragged further into the mud. |
as usual, the typical names that been giving me crap all these years. Anyone who uses the name HOGGHEAD and then runs to another forum crying, obviously is running to an area where the friends are there to protect him.
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Originally Posted by Urban_Redneck
(Post 3763303)
I see this as a serious offense against an innocent man.
MountainDevil54 called HEAD0001 a thief and a con man on this public forum. I've been a member of Huntingnet.com since 2003. While I've witnessed some heated disagreements, this is way beyond the pale. I hope the owners of Huntingnet take notice and action before their good name gets dragged further into the mud. |
Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3763305)
as usual, the typical names that been giving me crap all these years. Anyone who uses the name HOGGHEAD and then runs to another forum crying, obviously is running to an area where the friends are there to protect him.
I don't think that is the case. I have no "friends" here and I think what you have done is VERY wrong. You have accused someone of a serious offense without any proof. You may have opened yourself up for legal recourse in the process. |
Hunting PA is one of my two home forums. Anyone on here can go to their forum and read what he said. Then you be the judge. The words speak for themself. He is only a member there to spew his CVA rhetoric. Why else would a guy from CO be on a PA forum??
And if you read the two posts on Hunting PA you will see that he lied again,. He did not call me out. I called him out for BS posting. Just go read the two threads in their MZ forum. Then judge for yourself. One other thing. I just saw a picture of this guy on another thread. I thought he was a grown man. But heck he is just a kid. That alone led to make this my last response to this kid. I don't pick on kids. It is not a fair fight. GROW UP!! Tom. |
Originally Posted by Paul Niskanen
(Post 3763300)
Sorry bad info. It is the "edit ignore list" in your control panel.
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he made the statement he used the name hogghead on MM yet SL just said, no posts ever been made under that name. EVER.
There is something very fishy. This never even should have been moved onto this forum, that shows me 100% hes running to another place where he has buddies to help take care of him. Plain and simple." MD: the mk85 was high grade in its day, however due to it being an exposed breech system, blow back and water getting into the primer area will be the main issue with it. This all start over a simple fact of me telling him that the MK85 was high grade 25 years ago. "For a good price, look for a good used Knight MK-85. Only problem is that it is not an entry rifle. It is a full fledged high grade rifle with the absolute best trigger available on any MZ for a low price. Tom. Then it continued after someone asked about Custom service and i simply stated that Traditions pretty much sinks to the bottom on that department and is only available to the original buyer. Then of course he started in saying that i was paid by CVA LOL! Of course, thats a cheap shot a some on here use against me. |
Originally Posted by HEAD0001
(Post 3763311)
Hunting PA is one of my two home forums. Anyone on here can go to their forum and read what he said. Then you be the judge. The words speak for themself. He is only a member there to spew his CVA rhetoric. Why else would a guy from CO be on a PA forum??
And if you read the two posts on Hunting PA you will see that he lied again,. He did not call me out. I called him out for BS posting. Just go read the two threads in their MZ forum. Then judge for yourself. One other thing. I just saw a picture of this guy on another thread. I thought he was a grown man. But heck he is just a kid. That alone led to make this my last response to this kid. I don't pick on kids. It is not a fair fight. GROW UP!! Tom. 26 years old yes, been shooting CVA since 1999 when i first got a cva blazer from a local shop. Then a tc renegade which i sold some years later. On a friendly note, careful what you say about that, some actually will take it as a personal attack due to age. I dont judge like that but there are that do. A lot of memebers here are on more than One forum. Face it, things get boring and slow down to till. This post is about the most attention the BP forum has got in a long time. And on another note, if i miss judged, my bad, i apologize, i however still am very curious especially after you high tailed it out of the other forum and onto here. Using the name of a member that totally angered a lot of people wasnt wise. |
Originally Posted by MountainDevil54
(Post 3763317)
he made the statement he used the name hogghead on MM yet SL just said, no posts ever been made under that name. EVER.
There is something very fishy. This never even should have been moved onto this forum, that shows me 100% hes running to another place where he has buddies to help take care of him. Plain and simple." MD: the mk85 was high grade in its day, however due to it being an exposed breech system, blow back and water getting into the primer area will be the main issue with it. This all start over a simple fact of me telling him that the MK85 was high grade 25 years ago. "For a good price, look for a good used Knight MK-85. Only problem is that it is not an entry rifle. It is a full fledged high grade rifle with the absolute best trigger available on any MZ for a low price. Tom. Then it continued after someone asked about Custom service and i simply stated that Traditions pretty much sinks to the bottom on that department and is only available to the original buyer. Then of course he started in saying that i was paid by CVA LOL! Of course, thats a cheap shot a some on here use against me. http://frontiermuzzleloadin.powerguild.net/ have a look folks and judge for yourselves! Ray |
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