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txhunter58 01-25-2011 04:18 PM

Give it up guys. Just do what I did and put him on your ignore list.

I think we should put this thread as a sticky. Everyone coming on here should know the caliber of people giving advice and this makes our point more than anything else ever could. It is really sad that he doesn't see that with every post he turns more people off.

Maybe someone should post it on his website. If he is "in the right", shouldn't be a problem for everyone there to see how "right" he is.

Grouse45 01-25-2011 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3763856)
I dont have my hand in with knight or lehigh

Here you go again, making assumptions you have no clue about.

NITEHAWKJS 01-25-2011 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3763856)
i dont shoot what they shoot, its as simple as that. I dont have my hand in with knight or lehigh


You’re absolutely right!! You’ve finally got it.
But the correct phrase should be “They don’t shoot what I shoot” Lol
And I can’t believe you said someone else had a hand in with a company. Especially the way you push CVA and Powerbelts and do testing for them!! Unbelievable… Lol

Chasam60 01-25-2011 05:38 PM

Guys,You will never change him.he lacks self esteem and thrives on causing trouble.by arguing with him or trying to reason with him you are playing into his game.This is his way of feeling important. just IGNORE HIM.Do not reply to his posts.he will go away.

Charlie

MountainDevil54 01-25-2011 07:15 PM

you guys been giving me the same crap ever since i used to shoot the winchester x-150.

You all will never change, i will never change what i shoot... well unless something nice comes along ;)

Again, i dont push powerbelts, i am simply shooting the new ones to see how they do and getting all the info i can about them.

Just seeing how you all hate the fact that i shoot them, i just may have to start shooting them again during hunting season.

Breechplug 01-25-2011 08:03 PM

WOW, where was I and How Did I Miss this!
But I do Believe in Freedome of Speech. GOD Bless America!
(BP)

builder459 01-25-2011 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3763963)
you guys been giving me the same crap ever since i used to shoot the winchester x-150.

You all will never change, i will never change what i shoot... well unless something nice comes along ;)

Again, i dont push powerbelts, i am simply shooting the new ones to see how they do and getting all the info i can about them.

Just seeing how you all hate the fact that i shoot them, i just may have to start shooting them again during hunting season.

LMAO! then why were you posting BPI'S new picture and description of the new whiz bang Aerolite on every web site your associated with, for over a month and claiming you had already shot them! when i fact you just recently got them shipped to you! and MD, don't make a fool out of yourself and deny it ok! the proofs everywhere.. keep diggin your hole deeper and inserting your foot in your !#$ !

MountainDevil54 01-25-2011 09:20 PM

I wont drag any names into this but, lets take a look at the sites i am on, and lets look for names on there who post a lot of pictures and info of their chosen brand.

Ooohhh you have any clue how hard it is not to say those names?!

The Aerolites look longer to get due to the move that was happening at their main warehouse.

MountainDevil54 01-25-2011 09:23 PM

You're pretty slow builder, I am the only one who has the guts to come out tell everyone i get to test a limited supply of items for a number of places.

I explained to hometheaterman what exactly i do and what the main goal is for me by doing this.

SuperKirby 01-26-2011 05:20 AM

I've read this a few times and I wasn't going to say anything, but now I am. This is just my opinion and it doesn't matter.
MD - I don't think I will ever be convinced you don't have a hand in with CVA or powerbelts or a lot of the others. They may not pay you directly, but I'm pretty sure you get free guns, bullets and whatever. But that's cool. If Knight wanted to give me something from their new lineup, I would take it and help them out by telling everyone whatever I could about that. But for crying out loud own your actions. Do you know how much less crap you would take if you admitted to what you do rather than trying to pass it off or change the subject?
And as far as this whole stealing thing goes, it's pretty pathetic. If you're going to make some sort of accusation, especially about stealing and somebody's honesty, you need to be dang sure and have some evidence before you go blowing it all over the internet. A lot of guys don't have much more than their name and their honesty and to try to take that from them because of the commonality of the name Ron is deplorable.
And furthermore, you have seriously got to learn when to pull your dog out of the fight and apologize. Even if you're still suspicious, if you can't find irrefutable proof that you're right you need to apologize and move on.
The best advice I can offer is that if you don't think you would say it face to face to a dude that's a lot bigger than you, you probably shouldn't say it on the internet.

TNHagies 01-26-2011 05:27 AM

Wow, I've been away for a while. 9 pages huh? I guess I'm surprised because I didn't think that many people took MD seriously...

MD/FG, You would/could gain a lot more respect from everyone and they wouldn't 'give you crap' as you always say if you would just admit when you're wrong and say you're sorry.

builder459 01-26-2011 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3764007)
You're pretty slow builder, I am the only one who has the guts to come out tell everyone i get to test a limited supply of items for a number of places.

I explained to hometheaterman what exactly i do and what the main goal is for me by doing this.

:violin: your the slow one lmao!

WOODTICK49 01-26-2011 07:07 AM

In Reality,the only person we can really change is ourselves.You can't change him and he can't change you.Soooo...What's the point of Nine pages of finger pointing and Disrespect?Like 2 buck deer with your horns hopelessly locked together...Not really getting anywhere.

builder459 01-26-2011 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3763856)
i dont shoot what they shoot, its as simple as that. I dont have my hand in with knight or lehigh

I Don't either :confused0024:,not about brands lil boy, it's about your constant lying, anti american,can't admit your wrong,self centered, show boating, wanting to be like Toby/Wakeman, " ATTITUDE " you a walking talking contradiction.dude wake up!

Colorado Cajun 01-26-2011 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3763305)
as usual, the typical names that been giving me crap all these years. Anyone who uses the name HOGGHEAD and then runs to another forum crying, obviously is running to an area where the friends are there to protect him.


Well, I've never given you crap before because I usually don't get involved with these type of threads but I have to agree with what they are trying to tell you. Anyone can go to any forum and put in a name not used or take a name that has been deleted. It is very ovious to anyone who has read Ron Gold's post and Head0001's post that they are not the same person. Ron Goldman couldn't spell to save his life. You post a lot of good info on the forum but you discredit yourself with crap like this. Men are only as good as their character.

SteveBNy 01-26-2011 07:20 AM

BooHoo - everyone picks on me. All I did was call someone a thief and a liar with no proof and now refuse to admit I was wrong even when proven so.
You guys are so mean to me (myself included - by this definition of mean).

Man up and admit you where wrong and post a public, sincere apology. I'll be the first to congratulate you on doing so.
We all have, and will continue to make mistakes. Admitting them when wrong is the right thing to do.

Get on the road to earning some respect and maturing. Don't do it and lose everything you want so badly.

Taureaunoir 01-26-2011 08:31 AM

I don't know CVA keep endorsing the craps you wrote on this forum.I usely don't response to threads like this .Does CVA knows who you are if so than CVA won't need my business.
If they don'knows I'll send them this 10 pages so they will undertand who you are.
I have 2 hunting forums and I would as Administrator throw you out of my forum .
Taureau noir

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 10:23 AM

if the poster of this thread hadnt ran off to another forum where his buddies were, he may have been able to talk to me on huntingpa and convince me, however, he ran. Huge red flag.

Taureaunior, you have 3 members on your forum. The other i cant read due to the language.

SteveBNy 01-26-2011 10:27 AM

Flags aren't propf - and they aren't even flags in this case.
Take the easy way and keep digging the hole YOU started.
Or man up and do the right thing.
Unfortunately, I'm betting on the 1st.

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 10:41 AM

i didnt dig this hole here, the poster ran away to where he's protected.

Taureaunoir 01-26-2011 11:04 AM

FG,on the french one I have 235 members with 158,000 plus messages in 5 Years.The english one I opened few week ago and I'msur eit will be respectfull of his members as it is on the french forum..
Taureau noir

TNHagies 01-26-2011 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3764294)
i didnt dig this hole here, the poster ran away to where he's protected.

Unless you have something other than speculation (which if so you have yet to show), you owe him an apology. Plain and simple.

builder459 01-26-2011 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Taureaunoir (Post 3764307)
FG,on the french one I have 235 members with 158,000 plus messages in 5 Years.The english one I opened few week ago and I'msur eit will be respectfull of his members as it is on the french forum..
Taureau noir

Taureanunior take a look at his sites and you will see why just about everyone on this site feels the way they do about MD/FG.

http://frontiermuzzleloadin.powerguild.net/ http://gandersmuzzleloadingblog.blogspot.com/ He has no shame nor a leg to stand on. it's really obvious he wants to be just like the people he bad mouths Toby/Wakeman. his posts confirm this,he has pictures of himself in about every post,CVA rifles with logos pasted all over them. bashes american made products,even insults veterans who used american weapons during war time.his blog and web sites look like a shrine to CVA and BPI products.he is even into the video making part of it.. this lil boy in a mans body, has some real issues. often times watching the things he does and says are downright pitiful. Ray

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 12:23 PM

Builder, i am the only one who will openly talk about and tell others that i do get some free stuff now and then to test out and write on.

I dont bad mouth on Toby, he and i have spoken to one another many times. I just see eye on eye with him on his theory about round balls. He hates them, i love them.

Bash american brands? LOL no, theres just nothing on the market thats american made that will fit my or something that doesnt shoot the projectiles i have to use.

Theres some videos on me shooting my traditions flintlock ;)

As you can see, Builder certainly had a major jealous streak running through him when it comes to me.

As for wakeman, Who doesnt bad mouth him?

Michael396 01-26-2011 12:33 PM

Are you sure about the high fence statement?

builder459 01-26-2011 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3764346)
Builder, i am the only one who will openly talk about and tell others that i do get some free stuff now and then to test out and write on.

I dont bad mouth on Toby, he and i have spoken to one another many times. I just see eye on eye with him on his theory about round balls. He hates them, i love them.

Bash american brands? LOL no, theres just nothing on the market thats american made that will fit my or something that doesnt shoot the projectiles i have to use.

Theres some videos on me shooting my traditions flintlock ;)

As you can see, Builder certainly had a major jealous streak running through him when it comes to me.

As for wakeman, Who doesnt bad mouth him?

As for my forum, if you're not the owner of it, what business is it to you what i have or dont have on it? Its like coming over here and telling the Admin to get rid of lee and tiffany ad's because they are known to hunt high fences.

Jealous of you lmaoooo? dude your inhaling to much powder, I pitty you.everything you just posted AGAIN are not the facts.most of what i posted is in this thread..are you inhaling something more than powder fumes or what!get a life,cuz you will never be a Toby/wakeman, not in this life. were you neglected or beaten as a child, exactly why do you have this need to stand out and be seen lil boy? seek help and i mean that sincerely...

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 12:40 PM

what you arent picking up on builder is that the more crap you talk, the more defensive i will be come, and the more defensive i become, the more this topic will go no where.

You are really starting to pick up with personal attacks and on this site, i know they wont put up with it. You are starting to over use the attacks and it wont get you very far on here.

flounder33 01-26-2011 12:46 PM

MD, personally I have no problem at all with you getting to try stuff out and reporting on it. I wish I had more time to do that myself. This here thread was about you accusing an innocent man and that is what I do have a big problem with.

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 12:51 PM

exactly, but Builder here seems to have the hots for me and makes it an endless journey to ride me every chance he can.

TNHagies 01-26-2011 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by flounder33 (Post 3764360)
MD, personally I have no problem at all with you getting to try stuff out and reporting on it. I wish I had more time to do that myself. This here thread was about you accusing an innocent man and that is what I do have a big problem with.


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3764367)
exactly, but Builder here seems to have the hots for me and makes it an endless journey to ride me every chance he can.

:lolabove:

Too funny. So you now admit you accused an innocent man?

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 01:13 PM

dont try turning it around TN

builder459 01-26-2011 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3764367)
exactly, but Builder here seems to have the hots for me and makes it an endless journey to ride me every chance he can.

Your exactly right i do, and as i have mentioned to you in the past, i will do so to any other person that behaves like you do... Problem is no one else does!!! Again lil man wake up and smell the powder!!!

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 01:30 PM

perhaps you should open your eyes, read your posts all over again... You're 50 some odd years old and arguing with a lil man as you like to call me ;)

SteveBNy 01-26-2011 01:57 PM

So even though Sabotloader proved you wrong, you are not going to admit it and apologize for calling a man a thief and a liar (doesn't matter where). And your reason is not you have more proof, but rather people are picking on you.

Wake up - I have not seen a flood of support for what you did. In fact, I don't think there is even a single post. That doesn't suggest something to you?

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by SteveBNy (Post 3764394)
So even though Sabotloader proved you wrong, you are not going to admit it and apologize for calling a man a thief and a liar (doesn't matter where). And your reason is not you have more proof, but rather people are picking on you.

Wake up - I have not seen a flood of support for what you did. In fact, I don't think there is even a single post. That doesn't suggest something to you?

Head0001 said hes been posting under the name hogghead on MM and yet SL also stated there have been zero posts under the name. :confused0024: How can you make a mistake like that.

builder459 01-26-2011 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by MountainDevil54 (Post 3764385)
perhaps you should open your eyes, read your posts all over again... You're 50 some odd years old and arguing with a lil man as you like to call me ;)

I have i typed them lil man... maybe you weren't neglected or beaten, possibly breast fed to long, bullied at school ?.. what exactly is the cause of your major malfunction?

builder459 01-26-2011 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by SteveBNy (Post 3764394)
So even though Sabotloader proved you wrong, you are not going to admit it and apologize for calling a man a thief and a liar (doesn't matter where). And your reason is not you have more proof, but rather people are picking on you.

Wake up - I have not seen a flood of support for what you did. In fact, I don't think there is even a single post. That doesn't suggest something to you?

and you won't see any,well maybe a lil. there are a few on his dreadful web site that seem to lick his boots :wink:

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 02:19 PM

Well after a search, found some convos with hogghead on 24hourcampfire. It seems in fact i have spoken with this one before in the past.

Seems he also doesnt like redfield scopes LOL.

MountainDevil54 01-26-2011 02:22 PM

hogghead, you sound a lot like me in this entire thread! LOL
Start at page one,
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthr...pics/4334094/5

HEAD0001 01-26-2011 02:41 PM

I did make a mistake when I said I posted on MM. I thought MM was the "Traditional Muzzle Loading Forum". Of which I am a member with the name HOGGHEAD. I am not a member of MM. Someone else pointed out to me that MM meant Modern Muzzle Loading forum, and that is not a forum that I am affiliated with. But was actually invited to join yesterday because of your antics here and on the PA forum. I did deny to join yesterday. I declined because if you are a moderator there, then I do not wish to be affiliated with you in any way.

I was wrong when I said I posted on MM. So I apologize to those who read that.

See there MD how easy it is to apologize when you make a mistake.

And By the way you are lucky I do not have the same job I had 15 years ago. I sold more CVA products in one day than you ever sold in your life.

I am still considering a written formal letter to CVA to expose your vitriol. I still have several well placed connections in the sporting goods business. It really is a small world. And I have seen guys like you thrown out on their butts real quick. It is to your luck that I am not a person who looks for revenge. But keep spewing your mularchy and that may change!! Tom.


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