I have been in contact with a rep from the company that makes the BH209 powder. I had a problem with the powder during the first days of ML season here in Va. I only got a Pffft everytime I installed a 209 primer in my Knight Vision using 100 grs of BH209 under a Hornaday FPB bullet. I was using a Winchester 209 primer that I have used for my NEF Sidekick for years. To my knowledge, these primers were not ML specific 209 primers and were regular shotgun primers.

The advice the company rep gave me was to use either the CCI 209M or Federal 209 mag primers. He also told me that the Knight Vision had a breech plug that was a little longer then others and could be modified if necessary. This modification was a last resort and I should try the hotter primers first.

Well I loaded up my gear and headed to the range. I ended up getting my hands on the CCI primers and loaded up. I shot the combination for a total of eight shots with no problems and great accuracy. I will be getting more of these primers and will try to build up my confidence in this powder again.

I did like the performance for this stuff and really want to use it in the woods for next year.

There seems to be something about the breach plugs in Knight rifles that is not quite as compatable to BH209 as the TC are. I have not yet seen anyone post a mod. for that problem but I travel a lot and might have missed it. Lee

rafsob

There is a new Knight breech plug available for the Vision, that does work better and has next to no blowback. Might call Gordy @ Knight and ask him about it. But non-the-less you are better off with the CCI-209M or the Fed 209A, althought for me personally the Cheddite 209 actually works best...

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Thanks for the replies guys.

Lee when I talked to the factory rep, he never told me how the modification would be done. Just that he would do it If I still had any problems.

Sabotloader, I believe I have the new breech plug in my gun. It has the type of plug where the 209 primer is installed into it and does not have the red plastic holder for the primer. It has virtually no blowback.

I am familiar with the old style plug. Bass Pro is selling these guns on sale for $369.99. I bought mine from Sportsman Guide for only $179.

I will keep shooting this load until I get more confident with it and can take it out into the woods next season.

rafsob
As you proable noticed a while back Sabotloader and I have been experimenting with using a modification that puts a vent liner in a used up breach plug. I have been puting mine at the end of TC plugs because thats where they put the touch hole and it has work well. Sabotloader likes to inset his and as far as I know this is working well for him, it might also be something for you to check into. Lee

rafsob

You are correct - if you got your Vision from SG it came with the new plug. I had Grouse's (Vision) here setting it up for him. All I shot in it was BH and it did not have any problems, but I was using a Cheddite 209 primer and CCI-209M.

I think you will only need to move to a hotter primer + build yourself a 'drill stick' to clean the flash channel every so often.

sabotloader,
That plug could probably be redesigned as well. I shot all last winter with NO problems with Federal 209A primers and BH209.

Hey Grouse45, how you doing?

When I was communicating with the folks at BH209, they mentioned using the Federal 209 primer and the CCI 209M both. If you are using the Federal primer then you are good to go.

I think I was just using a lower powered primer (Winchester) that would not ignite my powder. I hope so because I really love this powder and want it to work in my gun.

How is your hunting season going?

Everything is going well thanks. I shot A big Gobbler on the last day of fall Turkey season and several Doe in special regulation area's. Very busy lately and not much time to post. Been trying to shoot a Pa buck but so far no luck. I have seen 11 Bucks but only two have been legal with four points on one side.