200 yard shooting with Savage smokeless
07-23-2008 | 05:11 AM
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You guys should try the Leupold Boone and Crocket reticle. This reticle works great on my Knight Long Range Hunter out to 200 yards. The reticle sub tensions are within 2 inches at 50 yard increments.
After ground hog season is over, I am going to see how close the sub tensions are for a heavy conical. I am sure I will be able to get 200 yards from them also. The problem is the Barnes MZ bullet shoots so well in mine out to 225 yards that I am going to have a hard time switching to conicals. I wish the MZ's were not so expensive. I guess I can fun shoot my other rifles and keep the KLRH for serious shooting and hunting only. Tom.
You guys should try the Leupold Boone and Crocket reticle. This reticle works great on my Knight Long Range Hunter out to 200 yards. The reticle sub tensions are within 2 inches at 50 yard increments.
After ground hog season is over, I am going to see how close the sub tensions are for a heavy conical. I am sure I will be able to get 200 yards from them also. The problem is the Barnes MZ bullet shoots so well in mine out to 225 yards that I am going to have a hard time switching to conicals. I wish the MZ's were not so expensive. I guess I can fun shoot my other rifles and keep the KLRH for serious shooting and hunting only. Tom.
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I bought 3 packs. I plan on doing just what your doing, shoot XTP 300g (Mag or regular) and Gold Dots for target and Barnes MZ for hunting with my Omega--100g of Blackhorn 209,Federal Primer, supplied sabot is 1" group at 100, see below, made me a believer in BH real quick. I just did the ballistics on the 300g Barnes MZ and that will shoot MPBR of 175 yards, with a 3" high at 100 yards zero. More than enough for anything I will shoot at back east here. I think with Blackhorn and the energy it is putting out (look at LaneNebraska's MVs), the difference between a Savage smokeless and regular MLers is 25 to 35yards max, really not enough to warrent "going smokeless". Chap
07-23-2008 | 09:03 AM
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RE: 200 yard shooting with Savage smokeless
Good shooting there Chap, 200 yards is tough but can be fun.
After I get my hunting load fine tuned, I spend most of my practice time shooting beyond 100 yards out to 200 yards in preparation for hunting season. More than a few times, when conditions were right, I have shot sub 3" groups at 200, it sure makes you feel good about your equipment when you can do that consistently. I like to fine tune my scopes windage at 150 to 200 yards because the error is easier to see at that range, just have to do it with no wind so it's accurate. Right now I'm planning on using my White UM with a peep and a 460 conical for elk this year. I will be practicing with it out to 200 yards since there are many places where I'm hunting this year that could offer a shot that far or further. I also shoot my GPH out to 200 yards with a peep, that's a lot of fun too.
After I get my hunting load fine tuned, I spend most of my practice time shooting beyond 100 yards out to 200 yards in preparation for hunting season. More than a few times, when conditions were right, I have shot sub 3" groups at 200, it sure makes you feel good about your equipment when you can do that consistently. I like to fine tune my scopes windage at 150 to 200 yards because the error is easier to see at that range, just have to do it with no wind so it's accurate. Right now I'm planning on using my White UM with a peep and a 460 conical for elk this year. I will be practicing with it out to 200 yards since there are many places where I'm hunting this year that could offer a shot that far or further. I also shoot my GPH out to 200 yards with a peep, that's a lot of fun too.
07-23-2008 | 03:10 PM
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Good shooting there Chap, 200 yards is tough but can be fun.
After I get my hunting load fine tuned, I spend most of my practice time shooting beyond 100 yards out to 200 yards in preparation for hunting season. More than a few times, when conditions were right, I have shot sub 3" groups at 200, it sure makes you feel good about your equipment when you can do that consistently. I like to fine tune my scopes windage at 150 to 200 yards because the error is easier to see at that range, just have to do it with no wind so it's accurate. Right now I'm planning on using my White UM with a peep and a 460 conical for elk this year. I will be practicing with it out to 200 yards since there are many places where I'm hunting this year that could offer a shot that far or further. I also shoot my GPH out to 200 yards with a peep, that's a lot of fun too.
Good shooting there Chap, 200 yards is tough but can be fun.
After I get my hunting load fine tuned, I spend most of my practice time shooting beyond 100 yards out to 200 yards in preparation for hunting season. More than a few times, when conditions were right, I have shot sub 3" groups at 200, it sure makes you feel good about your equipment when you can do that consistently. I like to fine tune my scopes windage at 150 to 200 yards because the error is easier to see at that range, just have to do it with no wind so it's accurate. Right now I'm planning on using my White UM with a peep and a 460 conical for elk this year. I will be practicing with it out to 200 yards since there are many places where I'm hunting this year that could offer a shot that far or further. I also shoot my GPH out to 200 yards with a peep, that's a lot of fun too.
07-24-2008 | 06:41 AM
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RE: 200 yard shooting with Savage smokeless
Chap - That load has quite a bit of OOOMPH in it (67 gr 4198). I shoot 51 gr of 4198 in my 45-70 using a 300 gr bullet. Glad to see you figured out what the 'problem' was. That's some good shooting at 200 yds - especially with a ML.
07-24-2008 | 09:40 AM
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Chap - That load has quite a bit of OOOMPH in it (67 gr 4198). I shoot 51 gr of 4198 in my 45-70 using a 300 gr bullet. Glad to see you figured out what the 'problem' was. That's some good shooting at 200 yds - especially with a ML.
Chap - That load has quite a bit of OOOMPH in it (67 gr 4198). I shoot 51 gr of 4198 in my 45-70 using a 300 gr bullet. Glad to see you figured out what the 'problem' was. That's some good shooting at 200 yds - especially with a ML.
I read it 3 times and can't decipher it.
07-24-2008 | 03:35 PM
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RE: 200 yard shooting with Savage smokeless
Bronko,
I had to read it twice but I think what he's saying is the load that he's shooting has a muzzle velocity (MV) thatgives a 200 yard max point blank range (MPBR) using a 300 grain Barnes Original bullet that has a ballistic coefficient (BC) of .291. At least thats what I got out of it.
I had to read it twice but I think what he's saying is the load that he's shooting has a muzzle velocity (MV) thatgives a 200 yard max point blank range (MPBR) using a 300 grain Barnes Original bullet that has a ballistic coefficient (BC) of .291. At least thats what I got out of it.
07-24-2008 | 03:39 PM
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Bronko,
I had to read it twice but I think what he's saying is the load that he's shooting has a muzzle velocity (MV) thatgives a 200 yard max point blank range (MPBR) using a 300 grain Barnes Original bullet that has a ballistic coefficient (BC) of .291. At least thats what I got out of it.
Bronko,
I had to read it twice but I think what he's saying is the load that he's shooting has a muzzle velocity (MV) thatgives a 200 yard max point blank range (MPBR) using a 300 grain Barnes Original bullet that has a ballistic coefficient (BC) of .291. At least thats what I got out of it.
Bronko, Read it now, I spelled it out instead of all the acronyms. MPBR=Maximum Point Blank Range, MV is Muzzle Velocity, BC is Ballistic Coefficient. :-> Chap
